I'm getting an error with the clinodev_dry_mine mod.

Duplicate object: inorganicpudding stone

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Change the load order, load the Tougher Bodies mod above the clinodev_dry_mine mod, and world generation will work correctly.

@Dommain Deleting everything below "[CUT_INORGANIC:SLADE]" in the "inorganic_inorganic_aera_fill" file in that mod would fix it crashing in worldgen, assuming that's the only duplicate. You could replace my mod's version of slade (located in "inorganic_stone_mineral") with that mod's version of slade before deleting it if you want to keep the mod's changes to slade in effect. Edit the versions in the "installed mods" folder or the ones in the "mods" folder if they aren't in "installed mods."

Would the same way would fix the SLADE issue?

@Dommain That's just the expected result if you're using those mods together. And if you tested or read the description of broms_leather you'd see that it has duplicate raws errors even if used by itself, the author just left it up to give instructions on how to implement the mod manually.

Duplicate Object: inorganic SLADE; Offending mods are the_aeramore_expansion, Tougher_Bodies_Peri
Duplicate Object: material_template SKIN_TEMPLATE; Offending mods are broms_leather, Tougher_Bodies_Peri

omg you are absolutely right, it was the 1.0 version, thanks you a lot

@Fokku The MechWarrior Loading it there should be fine. Make sure you're using version 1.1 of the mod, as 1.0 doesn't work with the current game version and DF has a tendency to keep old mod versions around forever.

how do you load this correctly? I'm having trouble creating a world with this mod enabled, as I understand I must remove both vanilla materials and bodies then load this mod on the place in the load order where these 2 where initially but doing it so causes issues with generation eventually preventing me from playing, and if I dont remove those I get duplicate errors

Modding of DF seems like a big rabbit hole. I might have found that there is a way to edit all materials of entity which should do nicely. Not sure how to test my experiments tho - I guess arena will help.

@orzelek16 It changes the materials, which in turn affects all creatures that use them. It'd be possible to make a Dwarf-only version by making new materials and editing Dwarves to utilize those materials instead of the normal body materials, but I'm not interested in making another mod at this time.

Am I understanding correctly that this mod will change all the creatures?
Would it be possible to make only dwarves tougher (Kind of OP dwarf mode)?

Looked at it. Seems to do what I want, not quite the way I want but it's more preferable than slimshrooms. I don't know why I didn't find this one when I was combing the www for some help with my idea, but I am glad that you found it! Thank you so much!

@Noranum I just remembered that there's a mod called "VSR - Regenerating Monsters" that allows plump helmet men to regenerate limbs. It applies the syndrome with an interaction rather than a secretion, which avoids the whole slime thing altogether.

I'll give it a try, thank you for your response and advice! :D
I tried to tinker something like this a year or so ago, but stopped cause it didn't work in a way I was happy with. I thought maybe you had found a way that I would have never be able to come up with but if I remember correctly, I already walked down the syndrome path and ended up with slimy little mushroom men... Maybe I just have to wait until the game itself supports regeneration without syndromes.

@Noranum You can use SYN_AFFECTED_CREATURE to make the syndrome only apply to a certain creature.

Yeah that basically is a problem since the mushroom dudes don't have... anything, actually. No organs, no heart, no blood, not even eyes to shed some tears (given the fact how most dwarves view them as walking food, maybe it's better that they can't cry).
It can't be internally, then, so I would end up covering them in this stuff which probably would apply the syndrome to people touching it, right?
If I remember correctly, the last time a tried something like this I ended up having the entire map "infected" by self-healing :D

@Noranum Of course, looking at other people's raws is a great way to learn modding. You should be able to make a syndrome similar to the one above that regrows limbs by using CE_REGROW_PARTS instead of CE_HEAL_NERVES, and then you could give the desired creatures a secretion that continuously applies the syndrome to themselves. There's an example on the wiki for what that would look like on this page you could look at: https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Syndrome_examples#Creatures_that_behave_differently_underground

I've been looking for some time now for a way to implement something similar to normal tissue. In short, I tried to allow Plump Helmet Men (and any other creature that uses the plant tissue template) to regrow lost limbs (happens so often because they have no bones or any layered tissue). I failed so far. May I poke around in your raws?

Indeed. It does a lot of Tarn's work for him (which is very good), in adding more content or for balancing aspects of gameplay. I know I've been looking forward to messing with mummies; it'd be cool if a raid didn't inevitably end in a permanent curse. Maybe just some horrible prolonged sickness or an very high likelihood of unfortunate accidents for a while.

@Digganob For sure! Any additional modding possibilities go a long way for this game. I'm excited to see what people do with the moddable procedural stuff from the Lua beta.

I see. So that revised version isn't viable, that's a shame. Interesting research, though. I hope we'll have stronger modding tools later, for messing with things like body mechanics and physics more deeply.

@Digganob It's the same as the one in this mod except it's SEV:1 and START:1 (and therefore has a duration). Unfortunately through some more thorough testing I discovered that SEV for CE_HEAL_NERVES just seems to act like another timer (with 100 triggering immediately on the START tick and 1 being roughly 3 real-time minutes after the START tick), and once it triggers the creature will heal all nerve damage it has instantly, and also heal any additional nerve damage it takes instantly for the remainder of the syndrome's duration. So it just ends up being more intrusive/exploitable than this mod's version with no upside.

I am certainly interested. What does the raw look like for this revised version of yours? Why would it have to be permanent?

If there's interest in the revised version I'll probably release it as a separate mod rather than an update to this one. I don't see either as strictly better and I prefer this version personally.

I made a revised version of the syndrome that starts immediately after injury and works over time, which has pros and cons over the current version. The benefit of that implementation would be that it would ensure nerves always take a consistent amount of time to heal, but the downside would be that it would either have to be a permanent syndrome or nerve damage that happens toward the end of the timer would fail to heal. It's also worth noting that the slowest possible "gradual" (I put that in quotations because it's still effectively an instant heal when the effect has been around long enough to work because there is no such thing as a partially-healed peripheral nerve in the game) speed seems significantly faster than the current 2 week timer variant but it's difficult to test how long it takes exactly.

Testing this out!