There is something odd happening with the glamour gene. It removes any passions from the pawn at generation and every 150-300ish ticks afterwards. Appying a custom race post gen seems to sometimes fix it, but I cant get any consitency with it. Nothing in the log.
Tested with just this mod, dependencies + all DLC.

Where is the toggle? I'm looking, but I must be missing it.

@arget03
You've got good timing. I noticed that it was on by default yesterday evening. I think the latest version has the graphic disabled by default.

@Woodsaber
I'm heading on a vacation tomorrow, but I might look into it later if I can reproduce it.

@Vespi
They don't care about pawn appearance (just like Kind), royal title requirements, and a variety of ascetic and comfort-style stuff

Basically tolerant in an extremely general sense without actually being nice or having ascetic ideological ideas.

Is there a way to toggle off the tail in the tailed humanoid gene? I liked the headdiff, it made it easier to have a custom tailed xenotype with the filter for them to butcher humans but not each other. The tail doesn't fit the xenotype, and if you use it with AFU's tails, it gives them both.

Weirdly, nothing out of the ordinary is getting logged. I can upload it though, where would be the best place?

I downloaded a fresh copy of the B&S Genes + Framework mods and am still getting the weird behaviour with the snake tails and wings.

What does "Unpretentious" mean exactly? Like what mood debuffs does it override? The description feels vague. Like would a pawn care less about sleeping in the ground? Or not eating with a table?

@hanjiro10
Ask the artist who drew the adbots like that. :D

@gunningminer69
Yeah, they work fine together.

@Woodsaber
The Mile mod? That seems a bit odd, those are powered by pawn render nodes, so I don't see why that mod would interact with it.

Are you getting errors in the log? If so please upload and link the log. :)

random note why is Omega Kerfur from Voices Of The Void on the mod image

Say, is this compatible with alpha genes?

I don't know if it's just me but Varied Body Sizes seems to have become incompatible recently.
Having VBS active causes any wings and tails to not colour correctly, instead being bright red & green.
Tested with just this mod, Varied body sizes and dependencies and the issue still occurs.
Nothing seems to appear in the dev-mode log about it either.

@Morcalvin
archotech shards can be crafted into a consumable item that increases soul power.

@Dust
Titans exist, but they are extremely rare, usually only showing up in late-game raids from a few factions. Much because the Titan Frame is meant to be more of a late-game capstone or victory lap.

@Eclipse
There are random size traits that emulate natural deviations (dwarfism, small, large, gigantism). The genes themselves only spawn on xenotypes that make use of them otherwise.

Unless you're using one of the mods that give characters random genes.

@filipfrantz
I have no idea if SOS2 will require the DLC, and making the gene a MayRequire would mess with xenotype metabolism.

@Flesh Forge
If you get any errors related to it then a log would be very helpful.

@PureTacoz
I planned bionic wings/snake-tails/spiderparts/..., but I haven't managed to draw anything "good enough" yet.

Is there a way for a winged humanoid to get their wing removed back? I know it doesn't affect anything gameplay wise but I'd still like to know if there iss a way to replace or regrow their wings

seems prone to happen when editing and applying a xenotype, but if it happens and I quit all the way back to the main menu and redo the whole map gen etc up to selecting colonists, it stops happening and the previously saved xenotype works OK. No errors or warnings happen during this at all. I don't think it's your mod's problem, I think it's some new problem with the base game, but fyi.

Something has recently started to make your gender-forcing genes to act weirdly and I have not managed to diagnose what. I thought it was another particular mod (Same Sex IVF) but it isn't that, now I have no idea what's causing this. Heads up :(

One of my favorite gene mods in rimworld, however im curious why the eva gene in this mod is still in here, rimworld odyssey both has a archite gene and a normal gene for vacuum resistance now, and i feel making your pawn immune to the vacuum for cheap is a bit unbalanced

and how does it work with varied body size?

Do size genes naturally apply to all pawns in the world?

Anyone know if some of the crazier xenotypes spawn naturally/events, or are these purely starter scehnario things? Like Titans, I see them in the starting list, but have never encountered them in a game.

How do I get pawns with soul power to increase their soul power with dark archotech shards? Is that the shards from anomaly monsters?

@Vulkandrache I was mostly asking for confirmation, because it wasn't behaving in a way the name and description implies. I also didn't know if it required the Demon Bloodfeeder gene in conjunction with it. It'd tell me if my list had a conflict or not.

Its kind of in the name that they would do that.

Sorry to post twice within a week's time. Is the VU_VampireLover (Love Feedin') trait supposed to result in the vampire pawn feeding during intimacy with another pawn?

@Dragon2ism
It triggers at certain specific levels. You need a fair amount to hit level 2 or 3.

@MorphingE
Might, depends on what my supporters vote for.

I think the staging factor on the mystic warrior gene might not be working as intended I get a cap of 10% Blunt and Sharp Damage and that is it. If that's the maximum intended then apologies.

Just saw the parasite skill. Will you make a symbiotic version as well, sort of like the Goa'uld?

@Quilava Passive buffs through other genes as far as I can tell. The only active abilities I can find that use it are the "True Form" ones, but it also just passively strengthens those while they are active.

Anyone know what soul power use for? So far i know it give passive buff, but stacking more soul with soul siphon melee doesnt increase the buff for me, maybe because im using HAR race, my pawn have like 500 soul rn thank to all the killing but cant use it for anything

Regarding the "pilotable" genes. I really like the idea, but how do I actually use them? I mean, I need some way of creating these pawns so I can pilot them or something, right?

@TheBrandonGame
Because it updates very often?

The last update (3 days ago) was literally just a change to an icon.

@Strangely unnormal
Indecipherable how?

@jagdpenguin
Might be there is some issue on 1.5

On 1.6 they seem to work fine.

@Sauron
Broke how?

@Cap'n MacHaddish
I originally planned something like that, but didn't come up with a good way to implement it.

@Sprouty-Lunch
Check the optional extras mod.

@Shuttle
It is still in the lamia/snake mod. Might port it over into this one if there is interest though.

For fuck sake, why is it whenever my game breaks, it always right after this mod gets updated.

i installed this mod and now the genelist is indecipherable
i'm not even mad i'm just surprised

I am doing 1,5, I am trying to have a werewolf like gene where the pawns will change xenomorph at night but it doesnt work unless I load a safe, only then will the pawn switch. sorta annoying

its me or spiders broke? If no one else got this problem so that is probably my modpack

Is there an ingame way to cure soulless husk? I'm guessing no but I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask. I need 500cc liquid soul IV stat!

so you know those pilotable genes? what if something similar, but to allow a pawn to go into another pawn, maybe take control, maybe just sit there depending on the variant of the gene. it would be great for making a pawn that is a metalhorror

Oddly-specific feature suggestion: Would it be possible to add an ability to the snake-tailed body type genes to grapple and constrict a hostile pawn of similar-or-smaller size, similar to the unique functionality of the Constrictor mechanoid from Mechanoid Invaders ?

Can anyone confirm that the shrink rays and stuff are still in?
Because as far as I can tell, the "Mad Science Field Testing" research doesn't do anything anymore.
I'm not seeing any way to make them or spawn them (with dev console)

i can't find the Snake Head. it gone

Alright, the solution is easier than I thought. Just enable Genes and More and disable the rest, lol. I can make custom xenos for myself and add them to some vanilla factions.

I like the xenotypes, don't get me wrong, but I'd also like a way of having them in the game without completely wiping out vanilla balance because now everyone is ageless / deathless / perfectly immune / etc. If I turn off the faction they wouldn't spawn. The only solution is Xenotype control mod, adding just a few here and there, and turning off your factions, but that's a giant chore.

Not sure where I should comment this, but having played a while, most of the xenotypes seem to be a bit... overtuned. So many are deathless / have a lot of archite genes that are inheritable. Vanilla has this balance of "there are no aliens here" and limits archites to be non-inheritable. Lots of factions do raids full of unkillable pawns. Maybe the problem here is the factions, because each race submod adds them, and if you install them all every second raid will be full of deathless pawns. I think baseliners should be added to counteract this, or maybe consolidate factions so that Vanilla factions balance them out?

If you ignore the slime-theming of it, there's also value to the slime genes' mechanic of having a flexible body size. Especially when interacting with content that relies heavily on hitting body size thresholds. The growth and shrink rays can also accomplish this, but they suffer from opinion losses because using them counts as being attacked.

@RedMattis

Heh, that's entirely fair - It was just perplexing me that there were a few seemingly-arbitrary outliers like the "Snake Ambush" gene and its variants from the Lamias and Snakepeople Xenotypes that aren't present in Genes and More itself, despite the snake tail and Marilith body genes themselves being present.

Where can i find the gene tools in this mod? I'm not seeing them in the research tree or in devmode??

Hello, pawns with big genes a do not take enough nutrient paste from the dispenser to fill up the need bar. They take multiple pre-made meals (simple, survival etc.), but when using the dispenser, they'd only ever take 1.

@Cap'n MacHaddish
Almost all genes are in this one.

The most notable exception is stuff like the B&S Slime abilities because I think "Slime Genes" is too specific to be of general use.

Similarly the xenotype-dependent genes like the dracul's bite that adds Dracul-vampirism is not here, because it depends on the Dracul Xenotype.

The only exception is Big & Small Yokai where I've mostly just forgotten to migrate them over.

> up til now [...]

It was actually the other way around. It used to be 30% or so of the genes weren't in here.

Genuine question - what's going on with some of the xenotype/faction mods that depend on this? The VAST majority of the genes used by xenotypes in all of them are already in this mod, but a small handful of the dependent xenotype mods add one or two genes that for some reason AREN'T present here in Genes & More - or even more confusingly, CLAIM to add a few that aren't in Genes & More, but confusingly only a portion of those actually ARE exclusive to the xenotype submod, with others being in Genes & More despite indication otherwise.

I'm not objectionable to adding the specific xenotype mods, but I'm more than a little baffled by the inconsistency - up til now I thought that all of Red's own xenotype mods that depended on B&S Genes & More were essentially just adding items, xenotypes, and factions, with ALL genes being packed into this mod.

@B Flat
Check the mod called "Too Many Mods - Compats and Rebalances". It merges/remove redundancy/qualize a lot of mods together including Alpha Genes and Big and Small.

https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3250762483

Is there a page/mod that is a stand alone for the "gene tools" here?
No, I don't want to use cherry picker to remove all the other stuff just to have these alone.
Yes, all the other stuff here is neat and cool, but I already have enough to keep me occupied and the frames are sitting at a consistent 30fps lol

Nevermind, it looks like Kurin apparel is being incorrectly flagged as armor by another mod, so I'll have to look into that.