Yea that's the one! Thanks for the reply.

You mean the event for a few turns after you confederate? This mod doesn't touch that, so it should be compatible.

Is this mod compatible with "No Confederation Penalty," or does it already eliminate the confederation penalty by itself?

Thank you, to i can finally confederate the Rat without having to give them lobotomy first

Just use a previous save where you have 150+ relations with another faction that can be confederated.

What's the best faction to test this mod quickly if it's really work? thanks in advance

Thanks man

I took a quick look and it should work just fine. We edit different things. If it doesn't work for some reason, try changing the load order for these mods.

So, this mod won't work with https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2853070631 , right?

The return of the King! So thankfull for the update @VanguardMk1 !

@失落星 It has to be another mod you have or multiple mods conflicting of some way, I run just this mod and have had no issues yet.

What mods are you using?

I had a problem that as long as I had other factions come to me to sign a trade deal at the end of the round, I agreed, and the game would crash after a while, I thought it was caused by a faction mod at first, but it seems to be caused by a diplomatic mod

Yeah, that mod is great. It's a great safety net if some legendary lords are on the other side of the map and can get wiped out before you even manage to reach them. Highly customizable too!

@Waveshaper check this mod out if you are just trying to get the LL, I know you said you only do Vanilla but as stated with your frustration vanilla sucks
https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2854819509&searchtext=legendary+lords

This mod allows you to acquire LL once you have defeated their faction

I'm trying to confederate a single legendary lord as Malekith and turn 130 without success. They are down to 3 settlements, I have 50, needless to say millitary strenght difference is insane in my favor, they don't expand, they recieved over 200.000 gold gifts (each of the 4 factions), fuck this game and whoever thought confederation hidden modifiers should be a thing.

I try to play as vanilla as possible and removed all mods but I wll never, EVER again play without this mod of yours. Creative Assembly have no fucking clue how their game works and their balancing team should be mopping the floors.

I loaded your mod after AI's and I think yours overwrites the part of the mod. That's perfectly okay. I think that works, thank you :)

That mod and mine will probably override some things of each other. You'll need to mess with the load order of that mod and mine to get the effect that you want. It's sadly inevitable that some mods will be partially incompatible and overwrite each other.

https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2905096541

The following is in the mod, can this cause problems that I may not have noticed yet, do you know? "Confederations will now mainly be usable for factions in a last_stand situation (this applies to both the player and the AI)."

Great, thank you @VanguardMk1

@Hubris I may have found the reason for that. There was no line for major Dark Elf factions present for confederation in the table, so there wouldn't have been a change. I've added lines for most factions now so major factions should be affected too. If it still doesn't work, please let me know.

It didn't really need an update apart from that, but you won't have the yellow warning icon anymore.

Is it updated or need does it need an update?

Is this mod compatible with the Old World map mod by Chaosrobie?

Need the mod an update?

@Hubris @VanguardMk1 same thing for me, it used to work very well but now it just doesn't do anything, i tried to fix it with RPFM but i just can't seem to. To me it looks like it should work, but i just don't get any bonuses

crashes alot after patch please update

update please

its working for me.

Even with no other mods enabled, I do not get ANY bonus to confederation requests. Ive run 5 Different campaigns attempting to use this mod with no effect. Malakith, Ikit, Vlad, Archaon, and Wurzag.
NONE of those campaigns got any kind of boost to confederate requests.

Load order isn't a problem if its the only mod active, so I'm unsure if I'm doing anything wrong, if anything at all... I'm just pretty sure this thing doesn't F'in work.

This mod doesn't add or remove diplomatic options in the diplomacy screen and I'd rather not add that because that would just make this mod more and more incompatible with other stuff. They have a confederation mechanic, so it's not included in this mod. Same for the Greenskins.

Is there a way to get this to work with the new Dwarf confederation mechanic? THAT one in particular is a bit of a headache since the grudges needed to confederate continue to go up faster than I can accumulate.

@Comrade_Commissar

I may be wrong because I don't remember that function in SFO but funny enough someone was having issues with AI acting weird in their game and asked Venris if there was any change in the mod and as of an hour ago of this post he said:

Venris [author] 1 hour ago
@Trust in Trance: SFO does not edit AI.

Is this compatible with SFO? In SFO, AI has been adjusted so that they confederate less often

@VanguardMk1

Can you stop reminding me I wasted 30 turns in this xD

Ty for the information btw, I guess I just needed to train more armies. My last resort in vanilla has been if it was completely impossible to get them down to 1 province and peace them out to then confederate them later on but its bad.

So stupid though that after 151 it makes no more difference /=

There's no difference between 151 and 400 relations for deals. You likely made it harder for yourself by giving them money, which makes them stronger and therefore less likely to confederate.

This mod is so needed, I tried to play without it but I cant confederate Katherina as Konstantin (Or whatever his name is)

Im at almost 400 RELATIONS...400. Game is ever since 250 at -10 or -12 and the lowest was -4 and no matter how much money I keep giving them it always stays at -10 its so painful.

There were issues with mods in general, and they just released a hot fix for that. I'll update the mod now, if it even needs an update.

I like this mod but the new 6.1 update doesn't let me run anything, even if it's showing green and updated. Can anyone confirm it works? Because it doesn't for me.

更新啦

Kindly update the mod to the new version. Many thanks.

Please update this mod for 6.1,it's a real good mod,best wishes.

Is this going to be updated for 6.1?

Yeah, you can easily make your own version that combines them if you have a bit of modding knowledge.

@Sylph, due to the way modding works for this game, they can't really be made compatible. You can drop my mod lower in the load order than them though, that should keep most of it functioning while you get the benefits from the other mods.

There's a value in a row that I changed so you don't get a large confederation penalty if the other faction captured a new region within the last few turns. Unfortunately that same row also contains values for those other mods that affect those trading and strategic penalty values. So one mod with that row will always overwrite another mod that changes the same row.

I don't accept money for my modding work. I think paying people to make specific mods also goes against the User Agreement.

please update for 6 great mod

You can safely disable this mod at any time. Does the option return if you do that? Does the option stay if you disable this mod before your last attempt and try again? Did the event that stops confederation for a few turns bug out?

same, lost the ability to confed

I had that problem playing 100% vanilla in my last campaign super elf

for the last 6 months or so whenever me and my friends play in multiplayer we have a bug where after a player gets there second or third confed it removes the option to confederate for the rest of the game, the confederate tab in diplomacy stops appearing. and i don't just mean for 5-7 turns like normal, i mean i'm 120 turns into a lizard-man game and haven't been able to confed since turn 18. wondering if this is a known bug or if anyone else has had this problem/ if theirs a fix

Any word on an update?

HI, first of all, thank you for a great mod, but I have an idea for the empire faction. When i vassal same empire faction I wish they can use the vassal's Elector Count State Troops and also make Marienburg to Elector Counts again?