Crusader Kings III

Crusader Kings III

Houses Traditions
Caine 15 Feb, 2023 @ 7:23pm
Tradition List
Is there some where online where I can see the full list of house traditions? I'm trying to incorporate it into my builds, and am trying to decode it all slowly through selecting certain traits in game.
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Beyond Disbelief  [developer] 16 May, 2023 @ 8:18pm 
The full list is actually already in the mod description:
Valor, Honor, Duty, Justice, Vengeance, Pride, Authority, Power, Influence, Guile, Perseverance, Vigilance, Peace, Fortune, Knowledge, Truth, Wisdom, Devotion, Family, Compassion, and Joy.

I can share a little bit about the traits they favor/disfavor since those are pretty much set in stone, but mechanical perks may be subject to tweaks based on flavor/balance/patches

Valor:
+Brave, Stubborn, Impatient
-Craven

Honor:
+Honest, Just, Stubborn
-Deceitful, Arbitrary, Fickle

Duty:
+Diligent, Humble, Impatient
-Lazy, Arrogant, Ambitious

Justice
+Just, Vengeful, Zealous
-Arbitrary, Forgiving

Vengeance
+Vengeful, Just, Sadistic
-Forgiving, Compassionate

Pride
+Arrogant, Ambitious, Wrathful
-Humble, Content

Authority
+Callous, Arrogant, Vengeful
-Humble, Compassionate

Power
+Ambitious, Wrathful, Impatient
-Lazy, Content

Influence
+Gregarious, Calm, Deceitful
- Trusting, Content

Guile
+Deceitful, Fickle, Arbitrary
-Trusting, Honest

Perseverance
+Craven, Paranoid, Deceitful
-Brave, Trusting

Vigilance
+Diligent, Patient, Paranoid
-Impatient, Trusting

Peace
+Forgiving, Honest, Trusting
-Wrathful, Vengeful

Fortune
+Greedy, Diligent, Gregarious
-Shy, Content

Knowledge
+Patient, Cynical, Shy
-Lazy, Paranoid

Truth
+Cynical, Honest, Just
-Arbitrary, Fickle

Wisdom
+Temperate, Calm, Patient
-Wrathful, Impatient

Devotion
+Content, Diligent, Zealous
-Cynical, Fickle

Family
+Compassionate, Forgiving, Chaste
-Lustful, Sadistic

Compassion
+Compassionate, Forgiving, Generous
-Callous, Sadistic

Joy
+Lustful, Gluttonous, Generous
-Chaste, Temperate
Beyond Disbelief  [developer] 16 Sep, 2023 @ 7:22am 
Working idea for a tradition covering eccentric - I’m mostly settled on the concept and just need to flesh it out: A tradition that features being bold and doing things differently.

Distinction:
Favors: Arbitrary, Eccentric, Brave
Disfavors: Humble, Shy

In modern times these would be the disrupters of industry and society who pushes forth new ideas.

This new tradition will also serve as an alternative to Valor in emphasizing the Brave trait without diminishing Valor’s intentional specialty as the premier specialist tradition for war-focused dynasty. (Valor is the only tradition that can train off craven from children and exclusively so.)
Last edited by Beyond Disbelief; 16 Sep, 2023 @ 7:35am
rony419 16 Sep @ 6:13am 
Originally posted by Beyond Disbelief:
The full list is actually already in the mod description:
Valor, Honor, Duty, Justice, Vengeance, Pride, Authority, Power, Influence, Guile, Perseverance, Vigilance, Peace, Fortune, Knowledge, Truth, Wisdom, Devotion, Family, Compassion, and Joy.

I can share a little bit about the traits they favor/disfavor since those are pretty much set in stone, but mechanical perks may be subject to tweaks based on flavor/balance/patches

Valor:
+Brave, Stubborn, Impatient
-Craven

Honor:
+Honest, Just, Stubborn
-Deceitful, Arbitrary, Fickle

Duty:
+Diligent, Humble, Impatient
-Lazy, Arrogant, Ambitious

Justice
+Just, Vengeful, Zealous
-Arbitrary, Forgiving

Vengeance
+Vengeful, Just, Sadistic
-Forgiving, Compassionate

Pride
+Arrogant, Ambitious, Wrathful
-Humble, Content

Authority
+Callous, Arrogant, Vengeful
-Humble, Compassionate

Power
+Ambitious, Wrathful, Impatient
-Lazy, Content

Influence
+Gregarious, Calm, Deceitful
- Trusting, Content

Guile
+Deceitful, Fickle, Arbitrary
-Trusting, Honest

Perseverance
+Craven, Paranoid, Deceitful
-Brave, Trusting

Vigilance
+Diligent, Patient, Paranoid
-Impatient, Trusting

Peace
+Forgiving, Honest, Trusting
-Wrathful, Vengeful

Fortune
+Greedy, Diligent, Gregarious
-Shy, Content

Knowledge
+Patient, Cynical, Shy
-Lazy, Paranoid

Truth
+Cynical, Honest, Just
-Arbitrary, Fickle

Wisdom
+Temperate, Calm, Patient
-Wrathful, Impatient

Devotion
+Content, Diligent, Zealous
-Cynical, Fickle

Family
+Compassionate, Forgiving, Chaste
-Lustful, Sadistic

Compassion
+Compassionate, Forgiving, Generous
-Callous, Sadistic

Joy
+Lustful, Gluttonous, Generous
-Chaste, Temperate

Everything makes perfect sense to me except Duty favoring Impatient lol
Also Honor should disfavor Satistic and Callous too maybe instead of fickle imo
I was giving suggestion to someone making a patch which tradition suits each asoiaf house and I thought Mormont is perfect for Perseverance (Here we stand) but seeing the traits it favors which kinda make sense I'm like oof maybe not lmao
Stradit 18 Sep @ 1:52am 
I noticed this list is out of date as a couple of new traditions have been added, I have created the full list from the mod files below;

Authority
+ Callous, Arrogant, Vengeful
- Humble, Compassionate

Compassion
+ Compassionate, Forgiving, Generous
- Callous, Sadistic

Devotion
+ Content, Diligent, Zealous
- Cynical, Fickle

Distinction
+ Arbitrary, Eccentric, Brave
- Humble, Shy

Duty
+ Diligent, Humble, Impatient
- Lazy, Arrogant, Ambitious

Family
+ Compassionate, Forgiving, Chaste
- Lustful, Sadistic

Fortune
+ Greedy, Diligent, Gregarious
- Shy, Content

Free Spirit
+ Lazy? According to game files but I haven’t had luck getting it to appear with lazy alone in game

Guile
+ Deceitful, Fickle, Arbitrary
- Trusting, Honest

Honor
+ Honest, Just, Stubborn
- Deceitful, Arbitrary, Fickle

Influence
+ Gregarious, Calm, Deceitful
- Trusting, Content

Joy
+ Lustful, Gluttonous, Generous
- Caste, Temperate

Justice
+ Just, Vengeful, Zealous
- Arbitrary, Forgiving

Knowledge
+ Patient, Cynical, Shy
- Lazy, Paranoid

Peace
+ Forgiving, Honest, Trusting
- Wrathful, Vengeful

Perseverance
+ Craven, Paranoid, Deceitful
- Brave, Trusting

Power
+ Ambitious, Wrathful, Impatient
- Lazy, Content

Pride
+ Arrogant, Ambitious, Wrathful
- Humble, Content

Truth
+ Cynical, Honest, Just
- Arbitrary, Fickle

Valor
+ Brave, Stubborn, Impatient
- Craven

Vengeance
+Venegeful, Just, Sadistic
-Forgiving, Compassionate

Vigilance
+ Diligent, Patient, Paranoid
- Impatient, Trusting

Wisdom
+ Temperate, Calm, Patient
- Wrathful, Impatient
Beyond Disbelief  [developer] 19 Sep @ 7:59pm 
Originally posted by rony419:
Everything makes perfect sense to me except Duty favoring Impatient lol
Also Honor should disfavor Satistic and Callous too maybe instead of fickle imo
I was giving suggestion to someone making a patch which tradition suits each asoiaf house and I thought Mormont is perfect for Perseverance (Here we stand) but seeing the traits it favors which kinda make sense I'm like oof maybe not lmao


The mental framework I had for Duty is that they jump to action instead of sitting idly by. They take initiative. Also, while not all traditions necessarily follow the model neatly, my intention is to try to round out each tradition so that there's an arguably negative interpretation of the tradition that can lead to less desirable traits, such as Vengeance for Justice and Stubborn for Honor.

Honor is inherently opposed to deception, arbitrariness, and fickleness because their word is their bound. They would teach their children to stay and live by their word, not lie, not change their mind, not bend the rules. Callous and Sadism do not inherently oppose one's honor, that's more of a modern stereotype and projection that Honor necessarily means being altruistic good guys. Someone with a twisted sense of honor could very will see a dishonorable person "getting what he deserves" without violating their house's code.
rony419 24 Sep @ 6:08am 
Originally posted by Beyond Disbelief:
Originally posted by rony419:
Everything makes perfect sense to me except Duty favoring Impatient lol
Also Honor should disfavor Satistic and Callous too maybe instead of fickle imo
I was giving suggestion to someone making a patch which tradition suits each asoiaf house and I thought Mormont is perfect for Perseverance (Here we stand) but seeing the traits it favors which kinda make sense I'm like oof maybe not lmao


The mental framework I had for Duty is that they jump to action instead of sitting idly by. They take initiative. Also, while not all traditions necessarily follow the model neatly, my intention is to try to round out each tradition so that there's an arguably negative interpretation of the tradition that can lead to less desirable traits, such as Vengeance for Justice and Stubborn for Honor.

Honor is inherently opposed to deception, arbitrariness, and fickleness because their word is their bound. They would teach their children to stay and live by their word, not lie, not change their mind, not bend the rules. Callous and Sadism do not inherently oppose one's honor, that's more of a modern stereotype and projection that Honor necessarily means being altruistic good guys. Someone with a twisted sense of honor could very will see a dishonorable person "getting what he deserves" without violating their house's code.
Thank you for the thorough explanation, I see what you meant now. Though I do wish that callous and especially sadistic were somehow less common and more discouraged by some house traditions.
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