THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS MOD BRO
F THE HATERS WHO SPITS ON THE MOD WHO SAVED THEIR GAME
BIG UP TO YOU MAN, THANK YOU FOR SAVING MY EXPERIENCE , THE MOD WORKS BRO

that's why i'm asking so much too.

i mean how would i know that the vanilla game has that too?
i'm just a stupid mod enjoyer, nothing special here lol.

@Khaz The vanilla game does the same, I simply lowered the threshold for it to happen. You are welcome to continue enjoying the AI huddling and idling around their settlements if that's what tickles your fancy

@Pimpin I do not alter anything beyond idling threshold and capital defense, if the game treats recruiting as 'inactivity' that may affect them though I don't believe that is the case. In my testing I have not experienced the ai "stop recruiting", they very much so still field and attack with full armies. The AI isn't always compelled to recruit till it has a full army depending on too many factors to list that exist within the base game and are likely modified by popular "AI Mods"

Thanks for the mod!
Just to mention that with this mod i believe the AI may sometimes be using armies that are not fully recruited (like 10/20 units) despite having enough money (i use a mod that gives AI triple background money).
Hecleas also mentioned (on his Grand Strategy mod comments) that he thinks this fix mod may cause the AI to stop recruiting.
Thank you very much for investigating & working on this great mod!

i'm just torn apart about this mod, that's all.
forcing the ai to do something feels kinda wrong, for me atleast, but the mod's still worth a try nonetheless, i guess?

Zach, this is sick! Massive thanks and kudos

Toxicity is unnecessary, as is complaining about a purely visual component of a mod listing on steam workshop

I will gladly hear any feedback about what the mod does and its efficacy in doing so, if it is 'empty' feedback about anything else such as the picture chosen - it will be disregarded

Imagine whining about the image chosen for a mod while also using the mod like a stupid whiny little bitch. Absolutely couldn't be me, how embarrassing

you don't have to be an artist. like I said, you could've just typed the words 'ai' and used that as a thumbnail :)

@comestibles The art in no way effects the mod itself

Focusing on the picture of the mod instead of what the mod does is a waste of time and effort as I will continue using generated images for my mods for the foreseeable future

I am a modder, not an artist
If you want human artwork, google it

@nertanef just saying, the thumbnail could've literally just been the word "ai" in comic sans font on a white background and it would be 100x better

I'm getting lost in the sauce.

vvv also @Khaz "This does not alter AI aggression or personalities, it just makes them stop doing 'nothing'. Feel free to pair this with Deep War, Hecleas's AI mods or any other flavor of the week."

And as I've stated earlier in comments, this was still happening with deep war. You can use this mod in conjunction with any other mod

ya'll whining about an AI thumbnail. The modder created a mod that benefits him. He posted said mod for ya'll to use or not. Posting in the comment section about a mod you find USEFUL and whining about imagery doesn't provide anything useful other than your own pedastooling your own pedantic behavior. If you don't like AI images, don't use the mod. It's a modder, not a damn photographer. Christ. Ya'll don't deserve modders.

And why should you not just use the deep war ai mod instead of this mod here?

ai thumbnails are dubious, i will agree to that.

Just for those who are wondering if it works: it does. I added this mod to my 100+ turn golgfag campaign where I found ~50+ armies idling around around the world. 5 turns after, and suddenly I had dozens of armies moving for the first time in 50 turns, conquering and expanding like locusts. Its crazy to see. I'm realising that I've been gaslighting myself into thinking that the AI was using its armies decently well, but this mod showed me that they weren't using half of their power.

when I see an AI generated thumbnail I just automatically assume the mod author put zero effort into their mod, the only reason I'm here is because reddit said this mod fixes the issue. I would've scrolled past it otherwise

vvv A fucking idiot vvv

You had to use AI to generate a picture? Disgusting.

@Storm This issue has been ongoing for a *long while*, but it dawned on me a about a week ago to actually try and see what the ai was "trying" to do when it was camping settlements. It looked like they were all trying to defend and garrison their capitals, so that gave me a direction to work with. I've tried many things before to rectify this issue, thankfully finally found a working fix that doesn't make them all suicidal from increasing aggression

@Pimpin Pippin I can certainly adjust those idle timers, but I don't know what exactly falls under "idling" (like recruiting for example, since its not "moving"). I'll have to play around with the values and see. Also its 2 turns to "act" and 4 turns for "act with high priority" incase they didn't after 2

@Crumb Again, the AI does act defensively - I simply told them to stop camping capitals. EVERYTHING ELSE defensive has been unchanged

@tmxladyddla c'mon man, modders do a phenomenal job but please don't compare their work to that of a CA developer. It's a decent mod, sure, but it stops the AI from acting defensively by forcing them to do "something else". Next you'll be complaining that the AI leaves their capitals wide open.

Modders can
CA can't

Thanks for the mod!
Please tell me would it be better to make the 2~4 turns until AI is forced to act even faster - perhaps just 2 turns?
4 turns feels like a looong time for the AI to just let its entire kingdom get conquered and go into bankruptcy.

This mod is fantastic and does exactly what it says it does. How long did it take to make if you don't mind me asking?

Had a drazhoath campaign at turn 60 where I noticed a lot of armies sitting around doing nothing. Installed this mod and they all started doing shit after 2 turns. Unbelievable how CA can't fix this problem but one modder can. Good job.

hm, okay i guess, thanks for the quick help!

Act as in do *something*, and that *something* is entirely up to the AI.

It is simply compelling the AI to do anything instead of allowing them to idle endlessly

Or am i getting something completely wrong here?
Please, help me out here!

@Zach
What do you mean with "act"?
Could the AI just move a little bit out of their own territory and then just quickly go back to camping in their own territory if you force the AI to act out and do atleast something?
Even if that something would be something (lol) that would be suicidal for the whole faction?

Yeah please do that and fill me in on the details when you are done with that, i would want to know what you find out aswell!

Ill check the files later and compare. Ty

Again, I do not modify AI aggression or personalities. Simply telling them to not camp their capital, and to act within 2-4 turns if they are idling.

The AI should and will still defend their territory and such

Yeah right!
I thought that i was overthinking this way to much but thanks for the reassurence man!

I agree with Khazukan, wouldn't this techincally stop them from actually being defensive when they should?

would ai playing on the defence not be ruined by this mod by making them do something aggressive instead of defending their provinces/settlements?

Хороший мод, странно что там мало подписчиков. Реально ИИ стал ходить, даже СА этого сделать не смогли.

sure

Can you send/show me what else you're running alongside it?

If that what this mods do then i could geniullly say its not working as proper then.
Im using other mods but urs is on top priority

Are you using other mods? This mod also fixes AI inactivity due to them having no army upkeep, so that makes me think something else might be going on in your campaign

Mod works with some factions but empire, beastmen and vampires still dont move in 10 turns straight

In my modded version there is a lot of war going on but to be sure i will test this mod as well.
Thanks for fixing the game! CA should hire you.

Dont worry CA is still trying to fix it ! oh damn Zach already did it lol CA on a hamster wheel stuck in a brainfart

That's the the thing, guys, this forces the AI to move (a welcome improvement - makes the map feel more alive if nothing else) but CA still has to fix the AI's complete lack of intelligence xD

@Rustic I don't make any changes to "AI Intelligence", just solely telling them to stop camping their capital and do something after 2-4 turns of inactivity

Thus anything the AI does at that point is vanilla or whatever AI mod you might be running

@Rustic

She found a razed settlement and was like "I WILL TAKE THIS" and that's what happened

Reporting in after a 15 turn campaign with Drazhoath, armies seem to wander around a bit! So i would say it works!

My only detraction... is that the AI is dumb as a sack of rocks... I caught Khalida all the way down in my starting province, and she was not at war with anyone period? Im assuming that's the new expected behaviour norm

No, it's fine, it's now fixed with my mod and I confirm it 100%. But I admit that I racked my brains to find the right values. Because values ​​that were too high on certain tasks made the AI ​​inactive on its recruitment (like the TK and lizardmen) on previous patches.