You're welcome. The old helmet are the only thing which is "outdated," as in, none of the "new" entities have it. The other forms of armor still exist, though their sprites were updated a little.

The old helmets, though, still exist as an item, and still do have graphics, as well as the new hoods that show randomly under any helmet. There might be some small visual bugs with them, though, like overlapping when there shouldn't be.

But if, say, you added a new civilization from a mod, which used the old helmet item, your dwarves could wear them just fine. This mod is compatible with any such mod.

Digganob, thanks for all of your help with creating this mod. It's really amazing.

I just had a question, is it possible at all to use the classic armor in any way? Or have all of the default armors been removed for the new variants?

I wish this worked with Avas Armory, I would've liked to see the huge variety of weapons that mod adds with this mod's culture overhaul.

They should be able to, just as in vanilla. I didn't change anything with the armor system, just the graphics of them. Did you check to see if the individuals concerned are actually not wearing the capes? If they are indeed wearing the capes, but not showing the capes, then I would be concerned with a bug in this mod.

Good to know, another quick question. Ive been trying to make my wear capes on top of chain mail shirt + breastplate, but it seems they do not equip the cape but the armor they do (even shows red midsection in equipt window), are they not able to wear it on top of armor?

Nope. They all give the same protection and require the same materials as with vanilla helmets, with the exception of coifs, which are flexible of course, and also thinner technically, so they're weaker to a lot of sharp attacks too. But they can help a bit if attacks pierce through a main helmet.

Great mod, love the new visual variety. Do the Helmets actually differ in protection and required materials?

*It won't work on cloaks and capes, though, as I haven't implemented dyeing in to them, yet.

The workshop options such as for dye making are placed inside of entity file, in other words, the civilization file, which I replaced in this mod. I intend to make an update accounting for this, but it'll be a while, as I'm busy right now, and have other stuff to work out for the next update, too.

It's not too hard to copy paste the new dye making tokens into this mod's file for whichever civ you're using, so if you're dyeing to use the new dyes, have at it.

It looks like this mod doesnt work with the most recent update - Dyer's shop doesnt have Make dye option anymore. I cant see people mentioning it in comments
Does anyone know - when the mod updates, will it fix the issue for the already created worlds?

amazing work, really. Thanks to all the authors who made this possible!

Thanks much.

Sick mod, Would love to see even more helmet types. The naming isn't perfect but has turned out some awesome stuff that I've noticed. 9/10 must use mod when playing.

The problem I see with that one is that my graphics are ordered very particularly, so you don't have some body parts or clothes layering over each other in weird ways. So, even if another graphical mod wouldn't be weird proportionately (as I use a different kind of scale for the creatures inherited from CGE), you'd still have issues with stuff layering weirdly. Like helmets layering under other clothes, or something.

Have you thought about using Topples' Layered Graphics Merge , with this mod it should be more compatible/work with other mods or civ mods

Understandable. It's no problem.

@Digganob Thanks a bunch!! Sorry for bein WHINY, just going for some Gonodorian-esque humans and I was antsy over the lack of breastplate/nasal helm combos, har.

Go into the Dwarf Fortress root folder, you can get to it by right clicking on the game in your library and clicking local files, then go to data > installed_mods > arsenal_and_cultural_overhaul > objects > entity_default.txt.

In that file, it's kinda hard to find each civ, so use control+f to search for the word "plains", then there'll be a list of weapons and armor and helmets. Simply find what you want to guarantee, and replace their rarity with "FORCED", instead of common or uncommon or rare, as the case may be.

@Digganob You say easily but I have NO idea how to handle any file editing hijinks, lol. If I wanted too though, how specifically, step by step, do I make it so that human civs got nasal helms and breastplates guaranteed?

Oh yeah, I made them mostly uncommon. I just thought it fit their aesthetic and technology level a bit more. You can make them always have breastplates by editing the entity file, easily. You can also guarantee certain helmets, if you want.

Remember, there's two slightly different human civs, so you'll have to edit both, unless you only play with one of them.

ive been playing this mod recently and ive ran into this odd quirk, it seems like none of the human civs Ive been playing are able to make breastplates, its always shown as 'foreign'. Is that a normal thing?

It would be a bit of a pain to add them to other civs, yes. It's most convenient to make an entirely different version which implements my new armor, even if only to use the old helmet sprites.

Thanks for the incompatibility notice, I'll add it to the list for the next update.

May I also request if you can make the new armor/weapons added to be compatible with civ mods like topple's orcs and halflings etc... or is it too tiring to do ?

Found another incompatibility with naut's procedural dragons since apparently it adds a bunch of new weapons and armor and shields

Great mod. It would be amazing if this were compatible with Topples Jewelry Portrait Graphics

Really difficult to use unless it's by itself

got it, thanks mans, awesome work btw!

You can actually go into your installed_mods folder and delete specific files you don't want. If you want to remove the weapon balance changes, you'd have to delete item_weapon_aaco.

However, you cannot reduce the mod to a graphics overhaul entirely. The new helmets are not only graphical, but actually new items. And the new entity and entity edits need the new helmets to be added to them as options. Otherwise, they would use the vanilla one.

Technically, much of this can be made compatible with other specific mods, but that's a rather large undertaking. If some particular other mod which is incompatible becomes very popular, I might make a patch to make them compatible.

can i "uncheck" the rebalance part of this? i just wanted the graphics overhaul..

Thank you.

Of course take it at your pace great work !

Oh hey, it does! I was thinking of trying to add Advanced Agriculture myself, but this makes things a lot smoother.

I have no idea myself as to how to make the compatible, looking at their raws I thought they should have been.

They do look good in that mod, I admit. But there are currently higher priority fixes and improvements to make, first. I'll add it to the back log.

Good news is Advanced Agriculture now works with the mod using the compatibility patches

Any idea to make them work together, honestly the metal colors there are great makes them unique and if not maybe integrate it for next patch ?

Just did a more thorough check, and I don't see any files or images which have the same name. Odd.

I asked around over in discord and the crash is something about "duplicated raws" if that's any help

While I can't figure out exactly why it conflicts, it does say on the mod page that any mod which modifies the default palette is incompatible. While I do use new palette sets, they shouldn't modify anything in vanilla. They're only added on to it. Which shouldn't be incompatible with other mods. Anywho, the fellow who made it probably knows. In the mean time, I'm adding it to my list of incompatible mods, for the next update.

I stand corrected, it appears the metallic mod is indeed incompatible with this as the game starts fine but when you close and try to load it, it always crashes any idea what the incompatibility is @Digganob ?

Yeah, and I've tried the other mods, but it;s only been an issue with this mod.

Strange. I have seen my own archers working just fine, after I updated the ranged weapons. And there were no other mods besides this one when you tried it again?

I've tried two worlds, one with the wanderer's crafting mod, and the other with just this mod and both had that issue.

I have had no such issue, but I will look into it. Do you have any other mods which affect weapons?

I've been having issues that people won't fire their bows on both Adventure and Fortress mode.

@magicianofwands i'm using both metallic retexture mod with this and the game starts fine, maybe try to delete the mod files and redownload them

It seems the incompatibility is with this mod and the Metallic retexture mod. Shame.

I am not using a localization, I don't know why you think I'm ESL or something.

I am not on any beta/experimental branch. I'll try reinstalling the game and a few other things today.

If you're using Dwarf Fortress Localization Installer, you'll have to check out the fix in CGE - Redux's bug reports page.

I suspect you're using the beta or experimental branch, perhaps, though, as others have had similar problems with them. If you are, disable them.

I keep getting this error that makes it impossible for me to start my game.

"Not found: data/installed_mods/arsenal_and_cultural_overhaul(9)/graphics/images/human/human_body.png"

Help?

Yep okay it works perfectly now.