To be honest, I don't know what you're referring to. However, I can assure you that it only looks at all of your options, picks which one it thinks is best, and tries to counter it or tries to counter that move's counter.

Another way to prove it can be done with Undo - it's sort of like save-scumming in the way that you can go back to the same point any number of times. Generally speaking, the AI picks randomly from the moves that fall into the criteria I mentioned above, so you can see all the moves it would do by this method.

I understand the limited moveset, but the goon AI does know what move I put on anyways. I use a character that reaches wide on grounded, and the AI jumps over it even though there's no frames of interrupt or ready of that attack

ロブロックスハウスデ - That's because this was the pilot mod with a limited moveset, and because you're not using the DI wheel. He does not know what move you put in - you can prove this by having it lock in its move before yours.

In any case, you should try the General AI I released recently which can work on any character. With a larger moveset, it's more likely to switch up the moves it uses.

Goon AI needs to think better with combos, all it's been thinking was just throw, dash forward, throw, dash forward and repeats until hitting a wall in which it finally uses different moves ONCE, and this is on ANY difficulty level. Also he doesn't think for himself, he apparently KNOWS what moves I'm gonna do in which moves out of the way to dodge it.

i am goon

issa making meh game crash paizano!

it keeps crashing

You could've at least provided a link to the new mod

Need to give goon better moves and keep training it's ai.

Nice! I'll look at it later today.

Alright, the General AI is out and operational!

Null ):

>downloads mod
>starts match with favorite character and goon
>gets thrown 21 times in a single game before losing

fantastic

the charater doesnt show up

absolutely hilarious that this mod infinite combos until you figure out what the DI wheel is. 10/10

Goon keeps crashing my game as well, its very sudden too. Dont know if anyone knows a fix.

I dont know why but now when I try to fight goon it crashes my game

i love the idea, but it just does an infinite throw loop until i can burst. also i think the ai has cameras in my house due to its ability to counter all when i get an attack. cool mod :)

It seems to without fail eventually lock me into an infinite being-thrown loop. It will just toss me, dash up, catch mid air, toss again, repeat.

i began to have a problem with it after 2-3 uses, whenever i clicked it for p2, it'd come up as "null" and when id start it, it would just be an endless screen

Fantastic lil dude. It's a shame he lacks range, though he's got me with the cross a few times.
It feels like he's trying his best with the moves he's got, and he's taught me all I know. He's definitely the sensei holding back on his student. 10/5 Would recommend.

Literally best mod in this game other than todo Aoi. I love you. keep this updated forever please.

YOU SHOULD MAKE IT A CHARACTER TO PLAY AS

i find it fun, but the only thing thats hella annoying is when he throws, dashes, dashes, throws, dashes, dashes, throws like GAAAAAHAHAHAH IVE ACTUALLY QUESTIONED MY LIFE CHOICES-

the best training dummy I've had in any game and it works for me testing out modded characters and with teaching my mates how to use the DI wheel (DI up to avoid the grab dash combo from being infinite)

Ok, I've pretty much figured this guy out.
I've been fighting him non-stop on Hard.
He only does 2 counter frequently. It is Grab and Burst. That's pretty much it.

Guaranteed to always happen:
-Will always grab at close range
-if you are in close range during a combo and Burst gauge is full, it will always instantly burst

The Hard option is barely hard at all, it just takes a lot of time for it to decide what to do and I could basically scroll through twitter while he decides what to do. And it still loses.

Improvement to its decision making is my suggestion. And hopefully we could also make it choose a modded character. Randomly or Manually. I'm kinda bored fighting the same guy already.

the stupid grab thing where he grabs, dashes, grabs again, is annoying. other than that, he's cool

Easy to beat my ass, all it does is block and spam grab. No fun, in my opinion at least.

Regarding the problem with the character becoming "null", try checking the integrity of the files in the properties menu, then uninstall and install again, in MY case it worked and it returned to normal.

But I need to say that sometimes I need to uninstall it several times for it to work.

And, as the author said, you can try deleting character cache.

Please, for the love of god, do ANYTHING other than run up and throw. If you're not mid combo you better be inputting throw so you can tech. Otherwise its death by 1000 cuts.

Not a good time honestly.

the null thing isnt happening for me but as soon as i pick my move and then lock in the game just crashes :sob:

goon

please add a goddamn cooldown to the throw, it doesnt do anything cool aside from grabbing and throwing you across the stage over and over and over and over again

it just spams grab what a bore

For anyone who thinks Goon is hard, I have a replay for you. Just message me.

it would be more fun to fight the bot instead of just beating the fuck out of it while it tries to spam throw

"easy to beat" try putting the damage to 0.3 to make the fight longer and it will learn IT WILL LEARN BRO IT BECOMES SO HARD

I have played against the goon bot some and it really likes grabbing for some odd reason

also nerf his dashes

make it calculate all possibilities and probabilities of said possibilities

I don't know if this is just a me issue. But just today, this mod has been softlocking me when trying to start a singleplayer match. I went through all my mods to check and this is the only one that causes this issue

When I load a match with Goon, the only part of the level that is visible is a small circle in the middle of the screen where you can see some background and floor. no characters spawn and I can't pause to select Quit.

it's a great mod, but it'd be awesome if there were any way to have it think slower, but have the game still working while it's thinking. that way while the player is thinking the bot can do its job and as soon as the player locks-in the bot is probably gonna be ready

the nefarious FAQ THAT'S IN THE HECKING DESCRIPTION OF THE MOD

yeah the null error has been happening to a lot of characters recently, might be a new update?
try deleting your character cashe in settings, it worked for me but honestly idk what it does

It’s not working. I played it perfectly fine yesterday but now, when I select the character for either player, it switches from “goon” to “Null” with no picture, and if I hit go, it just keeps the main menu overlay with the level behind it and doesn’t respond to anything. I had to Alt+F4 outta the game to stop it

he doesnt work for me can anyone help

he sugharcoatng so hard nglbut he peak

Goon is so peak

Love this dude! Please don't give up on him!

One funny thing to note is that people mostly talk about Goon's Throw loop, wich you can cancel with D.I, bursting, jumping, grabbing too. Either that or i'm just the luckiest piece of rubber duck in the universe