Victoria 3

Victoria 3

Hyphenated Cultures & No Cross-Heritage Assimilation
86 Comments
sfingers02 27 Sep @ 4:04pm 
@Kris W if you're also looking to get this fixed I made a forum post for it: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/allow_assimilation_across_heritages-not-working-as-intended.1860724/
Kris W 26 Sep @ 1:36pm 
@Shawaylaintown because they make "heritage" now heritage groups, so the old code won't work no more and they forgot about it
Shawaylaintown 26 Sep @ 12:42pm 
It now prevents assimilation between cultures with same heritage in 1.10.
Jafoste  [author] 24 Sep @ 5:29pm 
Update is coming as soon as I find the time.
Hey this is one of my favourite mods, any plans to update it? (no rush or anything, I imagine the new update changed a lot of how this mod would work).
Jafoste  [author] 3 Aug @ 3:08pm 
@EinZwei There should not be a big impact on performance as the number of actual cultures can reduce in some cases, but that only happens in the mid to late game, where other factors also start to impact performance.
EinZwei 3 Aug @ 1:52pm 
This is really cool; does it cause a lot of lag?
Jafoste  [author] 13 Jul @ 2:17am 
@Saint-Roch no, any mods that add cultures require a fresh start.
Kyelka 9 Jul @ 10:27pm 
Hello! I made a Simplified Chinese localization of this mod. Hope it helps. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n9cB_RgqzZCT8AOCDf-wTucw-UUUEAX8/view?usp=drive_link
Saint-Roch 9 Jul @ 12:23pm 
Can't wait to try this. Is it saved games comptaible ?
KaiserAxt 29 Jun @ 9:56pm 
Pansino Southeastasian is missing :(
Jafoste  [author] 29 Jun @ 7:46am 
It was just a matter of a missing trigger. You should not see any old world cultures getting homelands in the New World and vice-versa (which could also happen).
Jafoste  [author] 29 Jun @ 7:26am 
@Orionpax I've noticed this as well, it is not intended. I'll have to figure out a way for it to work properly.
Orionpax 27 Jun @ 9:06pm 
ive noticed that in colonial areas, some old world cultures would make that a homeland which is the point but my issue is that, take a place like oregon, instead of say english making it a canadian homeland, it becomes english, was that intentional or something you plan to address, or am i just misunderstanding how the mod works,
willfitzp 25 Jun @ 10:01am 
Thanks Jafoste, love the mod!
Jafoste  [author] 24 Jun @ 1:19pm 
@willfitzp I haven't play tested it yet, but it should be.
willfitzp 22 Jun @ 1:25am 
is this playable on 1.9?
Jafoste  [author] 26 May @ 1:25pm 
@Butifarra My goal with the mod was making it possible to have a fair percentage of hyphenated pops where it made sense for that to happen but if the player wants more meaningful conversion than an active effort by means of decrees, incorporating the states and having better citizenship laws is necessary.
Butifarra 20 May @ 7:09pm 
great idea but the effect seems incredibly minimal, but thats just maybe the fault of base game assimilation mechanics
Jafoste  [author] 22 Apr @ 6:32pm 
@Hadi the mod is mindfull of performance, that is to say that it avoids small pop fragments when assimilating. The vanilla assimilation mechanic will also kick in and consolidate pops of same heritage cultures not in homelands.
Mods that add cultures will always have an impacts on performance, in this case, the best I can say is that the performance hit depends on the game situation.
Hadi 21 Apr @ 7:25pm 
whats the effect on performance
Jafoste  [author] 16 Apr @ 10:59am 
I've uploaded a major update, reworked the code and how the mechanisms work. There should be more assimilated pops, but if you don't make an active effort, these populations won't really grow much.
Kit 11 Apr @ 9:55am 
I only have "modify homelands" mod, that allows you to remove or add homelands. But it has no assimilation rates modifications.
Jafoste  [author] 11 Apr @ 2:59am 
@Kitsunenoko to assimilate european cultures, you need at least nationalism, some cultures require pan-nationalism. In my latest campaing, in the 1880's, I see substantial amounts of assimilated pops, in the ottoman empire there's some europeans assimilating, but these are indeed small pop fragments. I can look up if there's any bugs in the middle eastern or european assimilation code. However, I see assimilated pops in India and the DEI in the millions so that 900k number looks very low. Do you have any other mods that might be interfering? Something that affects assimilation rates, perhaps?
Kit 10 Apr @ 12:01pm 
@Jafose I am trying to assimilate ANYONE, at least SOMEONE for the culture to appear. I have tried it so far with all kinds of laws.
On ottoman run, for example, I had cultural exclusion for like 30 years, then multiculturalism for the rest. With maximum level schools.

None of pops - greeks, serbians, romanians ever assimilated into anything else under turkish rule, only converted.

I tried something more drastic, Capturing around 10mil russian pops as japanese to see if anything would happen. In 50 years - nothing. Cultural exclusion, max schools, no radicalism.

And I know that the mod is on and working, since I can see SOME miniscule amount of pops around the world with "assimilated" trait, but they are like...900k total, all of them combined, in the whole world, by 1900s.
Jafoste  [author] 10 Apr @ 11:53am 
@Kitsunenoko which pops are you trying to assimilate and what citizenship laws do you have?
Kit 10 Apr @ 8:03am 
I have so far tested it with japanese, persians abd ottomans, and not in a single game I have ever observed anyone actually assimilating properly, In a full run as ottomans with max SoL, acceptance and workforce, in 70 years, all I have seen is some Afro-tukrish pops. Nothing else.
Kit 10 Apr @ 8:00am 
Seems a bugged. For Ottomans, all Serbs are turning into Sephradim somehow.
Emperor Jeff 26 Mar @ 9:22am 
hello! not really important but could you add hmong mien language (miao pops) to the pansino cultures?
Leo1299F 19 Mar @ 5:52pm 
Good mod, as I'm always tired to set "Hispanophone" trait to my native pops, playing as a Hispanic country (to play fine with Cultural Exclusion. It seems pretty unreal for me to get multiculturalism to accept cultures with homelands, and in the hispanic case, even tried to be assimilated before independence)
Abracadabralicious 16 Mar @ 3:32am 
I saw on the updates page that this mod had added features from New Homelands though it isn't on the main description. It'd be nice if it was clarified as I went to the New Homelands mod to try to add the two together only to see your comment there as well.

Thanks for the mod regardless!!
népi 7 Mar @ 12:12pm 
thx!!!! noice mod bro keep the good work!
Jafoste  [author] 5 Mar @ 4:03am 
@MiniLord that kind of goes against the ethos of the mod and the whole no-cross heritage assimilation. If you want, you can re-enable it on the defines, as I've changed vanilla assimilation to be slower at higher levels of acceptance anyway. Otherwise, I could script a separate mechanic to allow it to happen just for high acceptance assimilated pops.
Jafoste  [author] 5 Mar @ 3:53am 
@népi no problem. the NOT = { has_discrimination_trait = francophone } is to force franco-canadian cultures to just assimilate other cultures into anglophones.
népi 3 Mar @ 3:01pm 
also, why does some anglophone cultures have "NOT = { has_discrimination_trait = francophone }"?
népi 3 Mar @ 3:00pm 
im using this mod (with changes) in a DoD modpack that im creating. is there any prob?
MiniLord 15 Feb @ 2:59pm 
could you make a version of this mod that allows assimilation from assimiliated pop into the main culture? maybe at a slower rate?
Jafoste  [author] 14 Feb @ 6:38am 
@Zuzutu I've been thinking about doing something like this, I might just take New Homelands and expand it to work on cultures that share a non-heritage trait with your primary and I think it makes sense that you need to be on Cultural Exclusion.
Zuzutu 11 Feb @ 8:16am 
Would it be possible for you to add an event or decision to add a homeland for these new cultures once they make up a certain fraction of a states population, for example?
Jafoste  [author] 1 Feb @ 9:50am 
@スカイ Thank you for your kind words! While the regular game assimilation should aid it, the mod works parallel to it.
スカイ 30 Jan @ 7:48pm 
This mod is great. At first I didn't think it worked but by mistake I was using it with another mod that affects assimilation which I guess I forgot to turn off. In my recent game I'm seeing the assimilated culture groups pop up a lot which is great. I've always disliked the idea of foreign cultures of other heritages just assimilating into whatever culture no matter how different, but it feels wrong to have no cultural changes at all. This mod is the perfect compromise. Keep up the good work
Ferret Leader 24 Jan @ 10:16am 
@jafoste That makes sense, thanks for the answer!
Jafoste  [author] 24 Jan @ 4:01am 
@Ferret Leader There are none. It's kind of an hassle to do all combinations, so I included what I think would be the most popular, but as people request more I'll add them in, as I did before.
Ferret Leader 22 Jan @ 11:25pm 
Are there not hyphenated cultures for central asian pops? I don't see any hyphenated cultures of the same heritage for my Kazach pops in New Mexico.
Jafoste  [author] 5 Jan @ 2:24pm 
@Angelo Thank you. The mod requires a new start as it introduces new cultures.
Angelo 2 Jan @ 8:15am 
Love this mod, was hoping someone would make a mod that created unified immigrant communities. Does this work if enabled mid-game?
Jafoste  [author] 17 Dec, 2024 @ 3:02pm 
@Dirty_anal This mod allows assimilation in homelands as well, if you want tweaked assimilation values, maybe try Assimilation Rework .
George Wallace 17 Dec, 2024 @ 11:11am 
Okay, tried it out. The only problem is that all pops in Austria turns south german.
George Wallace 16 Dec, 2024 @ 1:37pm 
Will this prevent african americans becoming dixie slaves in my confederacy?
FlyHunterKFC 16 Dec, 2024 @ 1:29pm 
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