Wait how do you mesmerize him

I don't like wild wasteland mode anymore

As far as I'm aware, the only way to get Defectum "onside" as it were is to Mesmerize him with the Gorgon Queen's Mesmerizer. Or remain loyal to Caesar.

Question how do you bribe defectum

I do apologize for flooding your chat with paragraphs I'll stop, I wasn't trying to argue about the Legion though, I was just sharing Bethesda's lore from everything I remember and the 20 seconds I spent on google confirming it lol. If they were a roaming band of slavers with no industrial capabilities they obviously wouldn't be keeping the NCR, a nation that does have industrial capabilities to some unconfirmed degree, at a complete standstill at the dam on the verge of having to retreat. Cool mod and good luck out there.

Hey Doc, if you want to argue the whole meaning of the Legion and how it is represented, join the discord of the mod and we can talk, I could go on for paragraphs but Steam comments isnt the best place!

Come and tell me how it goes!

Caesars literal goal is to start a post Apocalyptic roman empire out of the bones of the NCR by merging it's INDUSTRIAL and civilian manpower under the banner of the legion. So definitely not a roaming horde. But again, didn't see the easy mode so my bad. Obviously my complaints are moot if there is already a built in normal difficulty.

and frankly Bethesda has never been known for their immersive story writing, they're known for their wacky and entertaining story writing, because obviously a nation that controls all of California and beyond 200 years after the bombs fell would be capable of jerry rigging their own industry from the bones of what was left behind. One thing the games depict quite well actually, is the buildings still being largely intact, including many factories as we see in fallout 4. Realistically.... a nation with the resources the NCR OR Legion have would be capable of starting those factories back up, or replicating their own simpler versions, that knowledge isn't suddenly gone forever, just needs to be rediscovered, and seeing as how they've had 200 years and are surrounded by examples to follow....... I'd wager it's a much smaller stretch to say they have some form of industry now when compared to saying they are still using scrap metal machetes and football pads as armor......

Well apologies then, I never saw the easy option so that's my bad. But with all do respect the legion is trying to conquer the country they aren't a roaming horde even if you've seen them described as such, I mean they have an official capital, and have been hold up in a Mexican stand off at the hoover damn for a long time now in lore.... Thats not very nomadic is it... What you see as a "Roaming horde" is just what a conquest hungry army looks like lol. They are no more nomadic than the NCR... They rallied nomadic tribes under their banner mind you, like Rome did, but that's it, which is also the sole reason they did that lol, to better embody the post apocalyptic Rome vibe they have going.

And Doc, if you think its unrealistic, its because I tried to make a realistic submod about a literal roaming slave army.

Its not a state, it doesnt has factories for real, its just a nomadic horde. The Legion in vanilla OWB doesnt makes sense, nor does those 2 state nations that can build thousands of things. Its my mod and I wanted to show a different way of playing the game. If you like it, its fine, if you dont, its fine too.

Thats why the Easy mode exists. And honestly, this mod isnt even hard. It all depends on how you play, if you battleplan and hope for the best, then yes. Its impossible. Because HOI4 ITSELF, wasnt made for that.

It's a 'STRATEGY' game. Have some STRATEGY.

@DocHolliday

When you start the mod, literally before you do anything, there is a decision.

That decision is the 'Easy Mode'

It lets you play the mod without the building/production maluses.

If you think the mod is too hard, you can play in the easy mode.

Too each their own though I guess, it's your mod obviously so you can do whatever you like, I just think when you have people in the comments saying they tried 50 freaking times to beat it once, you might consider accepting the fact that this was tuned for someone who lives and breathes OWB, because in NO reality is any above average or worse player completing this, rendering all your hard work and story writing past the first segment completely pointless. Regardless this mod looks well done even if you have to be the Julius Caesar of HOI4 OWB to experience all of it, so nice work either way!

I wouldn't mind the difficult beginning if it felt like we were making ANY progress down the line... That part is just plain not realistic or immersive and seems like it exists solely to make this as difficult as possible, it makes NO sense that I can control most of the state of Washington and still be struggling to produce infantry equipment, while a nation with like two tiny provinces is producing vehicles or something. If you want this to not be a power armor spam playthrough... Then don't let us unlock power armor lol.... The industry, or complete lack thereof, just doesn't make sense when the legion itself has all of these abilities...

Thanks man, ur mod is pretty cool btw

The song is the Camel by Camel, specifically "Sandy marton - Camel By Camel / Blancmange - Living On The Ceiling (Arpesus Remix)"

Hey wsp, I'm very curious to know what's the song u use at the opening of the mod?

I will just say a few things.

- The mod is supposed to be hard.
- Its supposed to be kinda realistic, so the Legion actually is kinda shit ngl.
- You are supposed to play differently, this is not your average *I CAST POWER ARMOR AND BATTLEPLAN* mod.

You get many tools to win, you simply need to learn to use them.

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You got a bad ending, and I'm sorry that the mod frustrated you so, but the mod also offers you a variety of ways to make the experience easier on yourself. Everything from scrounging states for slaves, enslaving and conquering tribes, the new laws and companies added, it's certainly not a walk in the park, but with time and effort, you can not only conquer the Oregon, but you can conquer the Idaho and Washington as well.

And the simple reality is that, in the wasteland, there are instant fail scenarios. In New Vegas, your very second mission to Caesar is to kill House. If you stumble upon Nelson, you're either going to take it back for the NCR or the Legion, there's no third way where they both rule. It's easy to get lost in the side missions and side content, but in the end, you're a soldier given an order, sent to a backwater nowhere with no help, your brother, and a bunch of incompetent idiots who hate you. All you can do is make the best of it.

@DocHolliday

The mod is meant to be long-term planning and progression. There's very little chance you'll succeed on the first try, and even then, what ending you get is determinant on your choices, whether you did things you thought were right or instead did what you thought was wrong.

In regards to A Barely Equipped Expedition, it's a progressing national spirit, you can never get rid of it fully, but if you hold onto enough slaves for enough focuses, you can upgrade it step by step until almost all of the numbers you get are green. If you truly do not like it, there is also a story mode available.

Playing smart and not treating your soldiers as disposable or infinite pawns is also of note, especially in regards to the deadline. Unfortunately, OWB hardcoding means that the deadline must be in 2279 rather than 2280 or 2281, but it is very possible. I myself took about 30-50 attempts just to beat it once.

By Mars, this poor Frater Holliday. This is the hardest mod i've played for HoI4, I've had to play it perhaps five times in a row to actually get anywhere, and I think I still lost further down the line.
I just enjoy it the same way I enjoy the Enclave Reborn mod, so much story to read.

The mod is supposed to be difficult as you're sent on an impossible mission as a sacrificial distraction by Caesar, and while I agree fully the *many* instant game over events are BS, maybe think of it like Groundhog day or one of the many movies like it. Or really just any older game, damn I failed but in those 5 hours I learned what works and doesn't work.

I'm only ranting because I had high hopes going into this and I was enjoying those character backstories, only for it all to be squashed by lumping a ridiculous deadline on top the ends them all in an instant if you fail... I just can't wrap my head around how that was reasonable to you guys...

I mean I'm really not trying to be rude, but the more I think about it the less it makes sense at ALL... I mean I have a fortified province with an army numbering in the thousands thats still accomplishing it's goals just slower than his unreasonable expectation, yet, despite the legion being in a state of disrepair, he just has me murdered and lets the whole province fall into anarchy????????? WHAT????????? Bro.... At least have someone else takeover until this civil war mechanic works again, because that reads like something you threw together in 5 minutes.

Damn bro that's kind of ridiculous lmao... I mean you even let on with that opening message having him acknowledge how wack his order was... Then kills you anyways....................................................................................... This mod had a cool idea, but starting with essentially nothing, and not having the ability to make jack sh*t kind of ruins the experience for anyone who isn't a hoi4 lifer...... I mean I can't manufacture anything or use the dozens of factories I have until I conquer the whole f*cking state??? That makes absolutely no sense.... Like if the civil war mechanic doesn't work just have him not f*cking kill us ffs... Just wasted like 4 or 5 hours of my life.... Sorry for spamming your chat but giving us some unavoidable game over screen because I didn't sweat hard enough is just so ridiculous I really didn't see that coming...

Man I must really suck because this dead line is literally impossible. I mean all of Oregon by June of 79????????? In between all the focuses I need to keep the council from murdering me I can't even seem to research them fast enough let alone conquest the whole dang state the fast starting with literally zero production and continuing to have none even after conquering numerous surrounding provinces and fielding thousands of slave. Like.... What? I like the idea of this mod but boy does it seem geared for hardcore hoi4 players...

I must suck cause I literally can't seem to win since I can't actually replenish anything, unless I was meant to shed that earlier somehow,.

Also I seem to be missing something, how do I get rid of the barely equipped expedition debuff? It's making the war against the bone dancers very difficult understandably.

Ah ok, independent is fine enough I suppose lol, and thanks for the tip, this mod is really cool!

@JChristmas

Thank you for the kind words! Seeing people talk about my mod always brightens my day, I am very glad that you enjoyed it and I would love to hear what things you enjoyed about it!

@DochHoliday
Technically, no. I wont lie, its... even... aligning with the NCR does not make sense. The mod is pretty 'realistic' in my eyes and there is no way one Legionary (from Fallout) would ever do that... But there *is* an independent path where you can do... the funny.

And for the state borders, usually the airzones are a pretty good way to tell! For example, Oregon is split between North/West/South Oregon in the airzone map. Most states are that way!

also even if I sided with Caeser is there a way to see state borders? I have no idea which territories might fall slightly inside or out of the oregon border lol.

So can I turn on the legion and align myself with the NCR? I feel like that's sort of implied in the description but I wanted to be sure. I love the post apocalyptic roman empire theme but they are such d*uche bags XD.

Hey man just wanted to say, this has gotta be the best submod for OWB and probably submod for any mod in any game I've ever played. I'm glazing but big man, you deserve it. Thank you for the awesome work

Good day everyone!

@Caravaral Technically, you should help your boy kill the Broken Coast, otherwise... You are kinda sending your own men to die!

@scarlettbox Is it??? jk, perhaps one day. I would really need to look into it.

@Willinium my friend, yes. It automatically goes to anarchy. Which is a shame, but perhaps someday I will find another way. It was something related to dynamic tags and the way that OWB changed them.

Ah I didn't realize that the Civil Wars had gotten removed from the mod, that was a fun first playthrough I had where I ended up giving women rights too quickly and got firebombed, only to become Aurelius and Narcissus having to defeat the other warlords.

After which I think the entire wasteland just devoured Aurelius's survivors whole?

So what happens now instead of the Civil War? Just a instant game over?

came back to this mod after playing it on first release, and my poor narcissus romance is gone :( rest of the mod is amazing though<3

While the war between broken coast and cataracta rages i'm unable to pick war focuses. Is this working as intended? Great mod btw.

@ObanMark I started to play it another time. Game no more crash, its previously crashed probably because I had pre-28 september update. And also now disabled zorealis fun.

@Iván And want to thank you for this mod, its quite fun :)

@ObanMark Everything you are saying is perfectly right.

The mod used to have problems with *Civil Wars* and that's why the 5 sided civil war got removed, when the CENTURIONS pull a funny.

But ever since, that got changed/removed, I haven't heard of anything. If you guys are using mods, I would like to know which ones and see if we can find a solution.

@Ikarian
Also, if it's a crash around the same time every time, try going right before the date you know it'll crash, drop a save there, and use the command "Annex all" in the console.

See if it keeps crashing after that date now.


I was having a lot of crashes around the same date in my game, and I found out it was due to peace deals not working right (probably my own fault, from other mods), so I narrowed it down between what nations were at war by reloading, having the one who was about to win this war annex the loser with the console instead, and then reload again if I still crashed.

Irritating, time consuming, but potentially fixable. Also, likely the fault of something else *other* than this mod, I'll say. At least if it's anything like my crashes.

Hope this helped.

@Ikarian
You can change the line of code that applies "Zorealis" in the first place. Search the files for "wild wasteland". There are only a couple of instances in the entire mod. That'll remove the trigger.

If you're too far forward from that to load back, then after you've removed the effect above, trigger any event that causes Borealis to become wounded, and your portrait will change to wounded Borealis, then after that he'll go back to normal on his own.

Hopefully this was clear enough. Though, as mod author said, playing without WW is the best bet. You're not missing anything else with it off.

That's strange. I tried it myself and it all went smoothly till 2280. So perhaps try a new game with the new update. If that doesnt work or crashes, I would love for whoever has the save to join the discord and send it to me, so I can give it a look.

*big facepalm* Oh crap. Okay, you got me. Or I got myself. By the way, have same problem as Dash, game crash around July 2278.

@Ikarian Hahahaha!

You should disable wild wasteland and start the game again... Its... A wild wasteland moment.

Is it possible to change "Zorealis"? Return that image back to Borealis. Its bit breaking immersion.

Animus Phoenix did nothing wrong.
250k denarii for a copy of Cyberhood: Prince of the Matrix is an absolute steal.

Hey guys! I should really release an update soon, with the few bugfixes, I just have been dealing with stuff and playing lots of EU4. Remember to join the Discord to yell at me for ideas.

Muhahaha!
I cheated a little bit... a-and no one can stop me! Hahaha!

Great mod. Very fun. :D

game crashes at year 2278 idk

Why does this mod change the portrait for Andrea Brixley? For the Maxson Expedition?

You turned the Wild Wasteland option on

Why does the country turn into the "Boner Cohort" and Borealis is now a pony?