"It is intended as a challenge at the start. If you plan to use it in the late-game and AFK heal for the trait points, you might as well just give yourself the traits in debug mode to save time."

I described to you what players do with this sort of trait and how they use it in their gameplay from my observations.

"As far as I know, sandbox options cannot change trait point costs. If you know another mod which does it, I can take a look and maybe apply it to this mod."

Like I said, an alternative version of the mod, where we can select trait points by selecting the different version in the "mod manager menu" would be a great solution. Simply have a few versions of the mod where the trait points are already selected. Example, the current points given are 25. In the alt versions, it's all the same mod, except the points value is adjusted for each alt version as a list for us to select in the main menu mod manager.



Or even easier, simply reupload the mod entirely as a separate mod, and with the points returned is +5 instead of the current +25.


Hopefully that makes sense? I do like the mod. It just needs some flexibility.

@Cyria:
It is intended as a challenge at the start. If you plan to use it in the late-game and AFK heal for the trait points, you might as well just give yourself the traits in debug mode to save time.

In solo play it doesn't affect other mods. You simply edit free points when you plan to use this trait. It is only a problem if you reach the free point maximum of vanilla. If that is the case, use debug mode instead.

As far as I know, sandbox options cannot change trait point costs. If you know another mod which does it, I can take a look and maybe apply it to this mod.

An interesting mod. I would love to use it. But it really needs some sandbox options to adjust the negative points. Even a simple alt version with +5, +10, +15, +20 points would be perfect for this simple mod.

Even in solo play adjusting the base starting points just for this mod really wrecks compatibility with other profession and perk mods. It makes using this mod really annoying, having to adjust everything around it, per game.

Having used similar mods that gave the player a burnt body at start. I can tell you for a fact this type of mod would solely be used in late game builds for players. Where the base is established with all the needed supplies and the player will sit or sleep until healed. At that point, they don't need to leave the base for anything and wouldnt be traveling with their original character. So they off their character for the the extra points creating a super build.

I want to use this mod. But it is too OP with the points gain. I was looking to adjust the points to +5 or +6 myself. Mainly as that is a good place for this negative trait and I wanted to avoid any abuse in the future multiplayer for a server. So if we could atleast have some alternative points versions, then this mod could suit the needs of everyone a bit better.

debug health cheat goes insane with this free trait points

Very late response, but you can stop the HP loss by applying a bandage. Normally in Zomboid if you suffer a fractured torso, you can't apply a splint, you just have to wait for it to heal, which can be sped up with bandages, food and rest.

@Rique: I think you can cure individual parts, but it's been a long time since I played this game.

yeah but that would cure all my parts? the debug

@Rique:
There is nothing I can do. Removing it should not kill you since the torso normally can't be splinted in Vanilla, as evident by your inability to put it back. If you are actually dying, you can solve it by using debug mode to heal yourself.

@Ram i removed my torax splinter accidentally and i cant put it back can you please help me i dont want to loose this save. Please help me

Do i get pyrophobia from this? (scared of fire)

Thanks !!! :3

@Kodiak
Yes, that is the base time. But it is reduced significantly by wearing a Split, applying Comfrey, being well fed, and your First Aid level.

fracture time is measured in days, right? so 50-80 in game days??

THANK YOU

@BruhYaBoi
I've confirmed that to be the case, but I don't know how to fix it. I've set them to be mutually exclusive instead. Since this mod's injuries are much more severe than Rough Landing, using them together is basically just free points anyway.

Great mod, but I'd like to report that this mod has an incompatibility with the Insurgent's Negative Trait "Rough Landing" (-8) (Start off with 2~3 random injuries upon spawn.) If you run both big RIP and Rough Landing the game will infinitely load forever, never actually starting the game, and never giving you the "Click to Start" prompt.

Cool mod, only "issue" I've ran into is that fractures that are placed upon body parts that are not normally fractured, the player cannot treat them lol. Better be SURE it's healed, or have some cheatz on standby, because that splint ain't gonna go back on old son.

I wonder, if you can survive that with anemic. I guess I'll find out

@kaydrayem:
Both fractures without splints and burns without bandages cause damage. You would die in less than 10 seconds if the game started without them. Burns need to be cleaned regularly, so the health loss while replacing bandages is an added difficulty of this mod.

imagine if you did not start with your wounds treated if that was the case this would be a death sentence. i mean i dont think that burns and fractures deal damage

A week of PURE PAIN right from the start, how nice.

@Posh Octavia
I made the mod you requested. You can find it in the description of this mod.

yus! maybe as a separate thing so you could mix and match, i like the challenge starts but i still like to be able to set the parameters custom so things like this are super handy

@Posh Octavia
What type of sick? The "Has a Cold" moodle?

can you make one that also adds in being sick?

@Goliath
@Weeb#1986902
@Phil

I agree that 25 might be too many or not enough depending on your preference. Since this is a hardmode type of mod, I leaned towards the latter. I was going to add sandbox options to customize it, but I don't know how to do that.

However, you can customize the points yourself without me adding specific sandbox options, editing the files of this mod, or using other mods. The vanilla game has a "Free Trait Points" sandbox option.

Start Custom Sandbox, click the Character Tab, and change the Free Trait Points value to whatever you want. For example, if you think this trait should give 35 points, changing Free Trait Points to 10 will give the same result. Likewise, if you think it should only give 15, you could change it to -10. It accepts values between -100 and 100, so it should be enough for everyone.

i just download free points mods and pair those with these

Yeah i edit these type of mods to give more points cuz its nowhere near enough.
its very easy to do tho.
(edit the traitStartup.lua)

This + screaming mod = comedy gold

25 points doesnt seem like enough points imo

Ah yes, the Joshua Graham character start.

F***ing take my points.

I was born with glass bones and paper skin. Every morning I break my legs, and every afternoon I break my arms. At night, I lie awake in agony until my heart attacks put me to sleep.

"AAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGHHHHH!!! I NEEEED A MEDIC BAG!"
-Dallas. Payday 2

Totally "I've become so numb, I can't feel you there" vibes