I'll upload both the final 1.12 version (that I missed uploading to steam) to GitHub and the version for 1.13.0 shortly thereafter , so expect two uploads to there. The 1.13.0 version should be compatible with 1.13.1 but I'm uploading it now for people who want to stick to 1.13.0

No, for some deranged reason Paradox setup the function to read gene strength to read it before Trait before modifiers. I have a mod to deal with that in progress but it ended up becoming an Immortality ( + related management stuff ( curing diseases / maimed / setting visual age / etc ) mod as well so it's not done yet.

Is it possible add a gene trait to rescue my bald ? My character only 30 but it already bald

@kalanyr Thank you for the update and your effort to keep these mods alive. I admit I've mostly waited for this update, I see old people in the mirror, no need for that in CK3 😉

Huh, an update that isn't going to drive me insane neat. This should get updated today, just need to test it to make sure it's all good.

As with most of my updates for 1.13 so far this is going to be super not backwards compatible. I'll update the missing final version for 1.12 when I upload this to Github, you should be fine with the current GitHub release for 1.12 , you'll just be missing the stand alone Beauty Aging Trait.

Thank you for making this mod! I really enjoy it and look forward to the fix for 1.13.!

*hmmmm* I don't know why this would break with 1.13 but duly noted.

*squint* looks like I uploaded the wrong mod version at some point that's why you can't find the stand alone trait. Will fix that when I update this for 1.13.

Btw it doesn't work as of 1.13

@kalanyr where is the standalone age_beauty gene activator mod?

@Paty Kerry
No. 25 was chosen because 25 is the age that corresponds to no modifiers to the portrait from age and timeless_appearance removes almost all modifiers from age (there's a couple that aren't caught, I assume because Paradox added them later (eyebrow colour and neck height))

Question about the timeless appearance. If I change the age in ksd_birthday to 40, will it retains the appearance of age 40 instead of 25?

Next thing I'm going to do is try and make Pattern Baldness play nicer with immortality / slow aging but that's probably going to be at least partially a stand alone mod, so other's can incorporate it into their stuff.

@Альфа 1918
Okay, I have now added a stand alone Slow Aging congenital trait.

Not yet, I'll definitely finish updating all my stuff for 1.12 before I start adding new features.

Did you end up making it?

Please do.

Yeah, I can make a stand alone version of easy wearing.

I already use easy wearing, it's the reason why I downloaded this mod, but it gets upgraded generations in

@Альфа 1918 I think Easy Wearing is not upgradable, don't use Fey Blooded or Timeless Appearance, but Easy Wearing.

Can you make the trait not upgradable? I really don't want my characters to look ageless, only age well. I wish Paradox implemented this with the "graceful aging" dynasty perk oh my fucking god why don't they think of these things

Does anyone have a list for these trait ID's? I'm trying to remove them via the console commands but I cant seem to find them.

@shay thanks for turning me on to Divine Intervention, that looks like a mod I will really like. And I was able to add the desired trait using it. I also unsubscribed/resubscribed, so both things may have helped. Thank you!

@vibroluxan still works for me, I have custom char interactions written a while ago which apply these genes without problem. Also, I suggest using Divine Intervention Menu: much easier to apply particular traits that way. If this doesn't work, perhaps uninstall and install the mod again?

I tried adding it using "add_trait" with the trait IDs provided in an earlier post such as "add_trait ksd_ageless" and it is saying "invalid trait name". Is this working with the current update? Or am I doing it wrong when trying to add it to my character using the console? I forgot to look for it in the character editor before starting my game. It seems like I've used the console commands successfully in the past.

In that case you just need to set genetic to no, for the traits that have it to yes, it's already set up so they don't spawn naturally and are only available through the Ruler Designer (and descendants thereof)

I love your mod but I only want to apply it to certain characters. Thank you very much for your helpful explanation.

They don't effect appearance at all (only genetic, the random spawn chance and random birth chance and ruler designer visible effect appearance ), I guess good sort of does because if a trait is set to genetic and good then it can change the rate of appearance but as long as its not set to genetic it doesn't matter.

I see. So if I don't want the traits to appear anywhere other than debug, just set those three parameters to 'no' right?

Good traits are regarded as positive by the engine (if you have bad congenital traits you can't take the Strengthen Bloodline decision for example even if you meet the other requirements ) , I don't think it matters for anything except congenital traits , because it's also what determines whether or not the trait is regarded as positive/good or bad/negative for the purposes of the Blood legacy and I can't think of anywhere else except for that decision and legacy where it matters.

Physical indicates a trait is of the body ( I think everything inherited except the "descended from a prophet" kind of traits are physical (because those are actually social products of what people think your descent is rather than physical characteristics) as is a bunch of stuff you'd expect ) rather than of the mind ( personality traits aren't body for example)

In your traits, if I set genetics to 'no' it will not be inherited. But what about good and physical? The wiki doesn't explain about it.

Atm, most mods are working fine for me with Wards & Wardens, although I don't see any new content though, besides exchanging hostages which is mostly useless, because people have no hostages to exchange 😉

This shouldn't require any update for 1.10 but I'll need to do the testing for Spouse Designer before I touch update the version for this at the same time.

@kalanyr Oh, okay, I'll double check so both parents have Fey Blooded. I assumed Fey Blooded is replaced by Ageless trait at 25, but if not that makes sense. Thanks.

Do both parents have Fey Blooded which is the actual Congenital Trait. Timeless Appearance is responsible for setting the Aging gene to Ageless but is not directly inheritable ( rather characters with Fey Blooded gain it when they turn 25 )

I have one additional problem, Fey Blood is not inherited when a child is born outside marriage, particularly when it gets mother's dynasty, both mother and father have timeless appearance, but the child inherits only Glamour, not Fey Blood. Checked in multiple configurations, with hundreds of children, same thing.

Strange in most cases they can, will have to keep an eye on it

@FunGaming44
I have double checked this and none of the other debug interactions explicitly block the AI. Are you sure that the AI doesn't start blocked by default in the absence of any enabling modifiers ?

Thanks

@FunGaming44
I'll fix that tomorrow I guess , there's a bunch of typos I didn't catch in the effect.

1 problem with the interaction you added, the AI can also do it if you have debug active. You need to add that the Ai can't use it

Thank you very much!

@shay
Added now.

@kalnyr Debug mode interaction will do if you don't mind an extra work, thank you! I sometimes use one of immortality mods if I don't want characters to age, but then they don't die :) Your solution is more elegant if I wish for a game to work more or less normally, just without geriatric characters :)

@Shay
I could add it as a debug mode interaction if you want (it would just be a bit weird in normal gameplay).

(I could also add (low) chance for Easy Wearing and Glamour to spawn in the wild but obviously that's going to end up with everyone eternally appearing 25 if the game runs long enough so it doesn't really make much sense outside of a fantasty setting )

Very interesting alternative to immortality traits, doesn't give health bonuses, which I appreciate. You could add interaction to add Timeless Appearance to any character.

@Ed Wuncler III from Boondocks
Easy Wearing: ksd_slow_aging
Fey Blooded: ksd_ageless_potential
Timeless Appearance: ksd_ageless
Glamour: ksd_glamour

trait IDs?

Refactoring done.

I'm going to refactor this shortly, so that the Traits stand alone and there's a submod that integrates it with Spouse Designer. This mod will become the Trait mods and I'll add a new one for the integration.

(This seems best because even without the Integration this will still work, Timeless Appearance just won't be added where appropriate until after Game Start. )