i meant to say z_charger_limit 1 and z_jockey limit 1, sorry

well you could enable sv_cheats and type z_charger 1 & z_jockey 1 in the console, though i'm not sure if this will work due to how the mutation is set-up. Maybe I could make a variant (if i come back to modding, since i've been busy with other more important things).

If you get it to work uhhh good luck i guess? I wouldn't want to deal with either of those on expert duo

Anyway to re-enable Charger and Jockey?
Id prefer the 1 incapping Special and one support special infected rule set if possible but im not familiar with L4D2 modding.
Like a charger can spawn but no matter what a spitter or boomer always spawns.
It would be fun to have the option at least.

I wouldn't know why that happens or what to do about it i'm no scripter or anything

normally it should spawn 2 at one time with another queued up due to game mechanics

hi great mod but i think i found an issue.
for some reason on dark carnival specifically the special infected spawns are being really weird, with it spawning all four variants at once. I also have the same issue as someone else with the random survivor spawns.
thanks :)

I'll later try some more testing then, thanks

Wouldn't have a clue, from what i've read about that issue it sounds like local server connection but idk about the crashing.

This mutation doesnt use any actual scripting, just cvar and DirectorOptions changes

Something has been happening is that my friend who tries to join my game with this mutation gets stuck on an infinite loading screen or his game just straight up crashes, ive checked and its not related to any other mods, any ideas on what it can be?

fair enough, personally i've never heard that saying until i played this game so yeah

huh, you're right, coach does that say that, weird... sorry to give off the wrong impression, it wasn't criticism, just a small observation since i thought it was a mistransalation,cbad habit from working as an english teacher. i didn't even notice you're from australia anyway so it was a dumb thing to point out, my bad patchy

yeah i have no idea about the character thing its probably something with survivor_limit cvar and i dont know proper scripting i just wanted to make an idea that sounded fun

also hang tough is from coach, even in the subtitles. A bit nitpicky of a criticism because it doesnt even matter but okay

it's working fine on my end, the only issue this mutator has is that the client never gets the character chosen on the lobby, leading you to have to keep voting to return to lobby then starting the campaign again until you get the character you want (the host always gets the selected character)

also as an aside, there's a small problem with the description, it should be:


hang tough is not an expression

might be your game/scripts i dont have that issue at all

inf loading screen

really, really fun mutation, good job with it!

i'll use this as a sub
https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3349977477

same here, i'm not much of a scripter either. i'm just making music from NIKKE into a theme.

Well dang, i was hoping for it. that would be a great mutation mode

i dont know any script that would do that, and i'm not really a scripter myself
as well, this would make defibrillators useless, as you wouldn't get a chance to use it before failing

Is there a script that if your teammate died, then its game over.
It's similar as Sacrifice finale game over?

In case versions matter, we use the default Two of Us version. We're happy to workaround it by just restarting the campaign until the two characters we want spawn, so we don't consider it a big priority.

I havent got a clue, probably have to test this

We don't run any scripts. It seems like it just picks a character at random for them, and then player two becomes that player.

I’ve never had that happen when I play this mutation with friends

Is there any scripts that might be affecting this? Have you tested without any scripts?

Hey I have a weird bug where my friend picks a survivor, and it just gives them a random one instead. Any clue how to solve it?

just host a local server (or load map using the command console) and use the command console to kick the bots

gl against the game though lol

if only this was a script man...

It's giving "We were left 4 dead" vibes

Nope, the whole reason the Charger & Jockey was removed was because it would be too easy to team-wipe from one of their attack (on Expert, which is what this mutation is balanced for)

Umm, if i want to add Charger and Jockey? is there any setting like that?

Bots are pretty useless, especially against SI unless you use mods. But it least it isn’t the liabilities that are the L4D1 bots

Haven't tried it cause my friend is a tit and thinks bots tagging along is more fun but when I force him to do it I'm sure its gonna rock

Thanks @doomderp, I made this mutation because I watched a few Duo runs and liked the idea of having just two survivors, but often found it too hard with the current balance when I kick bots. So I made this mutation as a more balanced alternative

Hope you enjoy it ^_^

this is sweet, you coulda just made 2 player coop and called it a day, but you actually tweaked and balanced, highly appreciated

Lunatic varient is real now, incase you like suffering.

My youtube video of that mutation:
https://youtu.be/sQwDmuYMS1g

we can make it if we try

Yes, the outside world did a number on me.

i always knew patchouli was good at making l4d2 mods in gensokyo

Realism version is real now

really good

Yeah probably gonna make it today

realism version

Yes

ayo patchouli making mods for l4d2?