please update, I need Bordiga Italy so bad

does it still works comrades

@Modern
Stalins policy of collectivization was actually based of Trotskies propositions towards collectivization. Trotsky believed whole heartedly in collectivization.

Bukharin was also considered a hero of the peasentry,being the biggest oppennt of collectivization and the biggest proponent of the NEP, with the whole "peasents, enrich yourselves!" quote

How about adding this dude to USA and changing their flag to a more fitting one, maybe inspired by kaiserreich mod for hoi4 coz the name of council republic USA is inspired by it. Link to the politician: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Van_Patten

Any plans to add agitators?

Great Work! It would be interesting to make Stalin the leader of the petite-bourgeoisie (representing clerks, bureaucrats, and shop-keepers and all that). Stalin was much less progressive than Lenin or Marx and Engels (specifically on things like the Family, Homosexual relations, abortion, nationalism, and so on). Making him head of the petite-bourgeoisie with Vanguardism as a trait would encourage socialism in one country (council republic, closed borders, autocracy, command economy). So have Lenin be TU, Trotsky be Red Army, Bukharin be Intelligentia, and Stalin be Petite-bourgeoisie.

Also, an interesting option for an industrialist figure could be Alexander Parvus, who was (without their knowledge) using his business contacts to transfer money from Germany to the Bolsheviks before the revolution.

Liebknecht had been at one point in the military, so he'd not be a horrible choice for a military leader. Engels also served as second in command to August Willich in the 1848 German Revolution. (Coincidentally, Willich became a Brigadier general in the Union Army during the U.S. Civil War, and would not be a horrible choice for an American communist general in the 1800s period)

Also, Stalin was mostly opposed by peasants. Both Lenin and Trotsky opposed the idea of forced collectivisation of russian peasants. Great work, still.
You could also add bukharin as the leader of the intelligenzia of russia, he was considered the philosophical 'golden boy' of the soviet union by lenin.

How would you explain the majority industrialists following communism? (Even if friedrich engels somehow became an influencial industrialist politics figure)

@Big Sandwich I actually just made a small mod myself that does it to the rural folk and intelligentsia.

https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2900911181

Awesome.

And I'll definitely look into adding ideologies to IGs.

Lenin leads the trade union IG because that's sort of the blue-chip IG for Socialists and tends to be the most influential once they take power. Stalin's role prior to becoming party secretary was as People's Commissar for Nationalities. Of the existing IGs I thought rural folk was the closest, since leader of the industrialist IG is purely an economic role and Stalin never held an economic portfolio under Lenin's leadership.

Wouldn't it make more sense for Stalin to join the Industrialists or the Trade Unions instead of the Rural Folk? Historically he was very much pro-industry

I was wondering if it was possible for you to create events similar to the red army event that adds the ideology "proletarian" to other interests groups. So like that if the leader for the intelligentsia is communist and you have council republic, the intelligentsia loses "liberalism" and gains "proletarian". Might be a little op tho.

You can find the red army event in events/communism and go to communism.8 if you want the template.

Rosa as intelligentsia sounds good I have struggled to get anything other than radicals or reformers for intelligentsia

Okay, so I'm in the progress of getting a basic second international event down where you can pick from a handful of later generation socialists divided up by parties (right now these are the Bolsheviks, Spartacists, PCI and POF) and one thing I'm really struggling with is Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht and their respective IGs.

On the one hand Rosa is Rosa and I think giving her the trade union IG would be cool. On the other hand Karl simply doesn't fit any other IG. I am considering putting Rosa in the intelligentsia since she had serious credentials as a theorist whereas Karl was really more of a politician/organiser.

Thoughts?

Absolutely. I still haven't decided whether to tie them to specific countries or put them up for grabs for other countries though.

Will there be any flavour on characters like Rosa Luxemburg or Lenin?

probably before the fix, it was the same session as the event firing constantly so probably not an issue anymore

End me. Is your save from today or is the save from before I uploaded the fix?

Bakunin is the president of multiple nations in my playthrough

Sorry, messed up a variable name. Will upload the fix.

the bakunin anarchist event fires every couple of months for me

(Paradoxplaza lets you host multiple versions of the mod for direct download).
In the meantime

https://catalogue.smods.ru/archives/128036

has a link to a direct download copy of this mod back from the 6th

You got an older version then?

Or at least put your mod on
https://mods.paradoxplaza.com/games/victoria3?orderBy=desc&page=1&sortBy=best so people can direct download, no?

Other mods (like the byzantium one) do it, so people can keep playing their saves when you update [by downloading the older version].

No rename, but it probably won't be save-game compatible since I messed with events, sozza.

Did you rename the mod with the last update by any chance? My current save doesn't work and your mod was the latest from my list to be updated. If yes, could you please tell me what the previous name was? Thanks!

Just added a small update. It doesn't add much in the way of content (the only real additions are an option for Blanqui and an extra option for the Manifesto event) but Bakunin and Proudhon are now in their own separate event that fires if you're the first to research the Anarchism tech.

Can I make the suggestion that anarchist leaders be put in charge of the rural folk, rather than the trade unions? The idea of the urban poor as the driving force of revolution is far more tied to communism than to anarchism and it would allow for an alternative approach to go communist than the current one (where you always want to prioritize the Trade Unions, even in very rural countries).

Could you please separate the historical leader events of anarchists and communists?

@Big Sandwich, once your done with all that you should definitely add good old Uncle Joe.

Yeah sorry I'm just doing programming assessments atm so I'm a little behind but I absolutely plan to tie later leftist leaders (inc Lenin, Luxembourg, Goldman, Kropotkin off the top of my head) to later techs in the way that getting Marx is currently tied to the tier 2 socialism tech.

Also ideas for anarchist leaders is people like Peter Kropotkin and Errico Malatesta as well as Carlos Cafiero

If you want to really add alot of distinction with anarchists, anarchists in the Trade Union interest group could be Anarcho-Syndicalist/Communist while Rural ones could be more so Anarcho-Communist/Mutualist

o7

add emma goldmen for the usa?

Cheers, I'll check that out and see if the creator is okay with me fiddling with their files. I kind of like the idea of maybe something like 'agrarian communalist' or something to represent groups like the Russian SRs, the various rural anarchist groups and Mao Zedong thought without ascribing them a particular ideology.

https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2883248364&searchtext=
You can take a look at this mod, which implements new interest groups. You can make an anarchist interest group according to this mod

Yeah, I'll have a look at how easy modifying the rural folk ig is to better represent rural anarchist communes. Trade unions to me are a bad fit just because all their bonuses are centred around industry and a frequent criticism from communists towards anarchism is the issue of logistics required for heavy industry under anarchism. Anarchists tend to be more in favour of artisan production from my experience.

The thing is I don't really know enough about anarchism to make that call. If anyone who knows more about the subject wants to weigh in I'd appreciate it.

This is the characteristic of "connection" in the industrial era, just as the world is an integral and indivisible economy, so as to distinguish it from the "isolation" characteristic of the pre industrial era，Differences between anarchists and rural residents from the time itself。
Of course, the rural residents in the game still exist in the pre industrial era, and are different from the anarchists produced under industrialization in some specific propositions, which need to cover up the class characteristics with the leadership characteristics, or directly modify the class characteristics to achieve.
It would be great if we could create a sub group system of interest groups, or simply another new interest group。

If we insist on distinguishing between anarchists and communists, then in the eyes of communists (at least I think so), anarchists are more like the peasant local autonomy movement in the industrial era.
They have considerable industrial progress ideas, but in essence, they follow the ancient and traditional rural local autonomy without external legal intervention, Even maintain a delicate balance between international solidarity and local autonomy, They do not like any intervention from outside (we call it integrated construction, but they call it autocracy), but they also maintain a considerable relationship with external economic activities.But when they are threatened as a whole, they will not be defeated one by one like the peasants, but will unite to fight like the Communists.

Yeah interest groups could be neat. I almost feel like Bakunin is better represented by the rural folk to represent the Going to the People movement.

Okay, so I've had a look through the files and the leftist flag selection is godawful. The worst offenders being Germany (who have the DDR flag) and France (who have something made up) when both have historical flags that were used during the period. I've added unique flags for Germany, France, Italy, Spain, Britain and Ireland based on early communist party flags.

I want to look into how difficult interest group modding is. Bakunin as a lumpen leader could be pretty amusing :)

Yeah he's up next. He's going to take a bit longer since I feel a bit weird having him come from the same event as gen 1 socialists. I'm going to make a new event with one of the later technologies for him, maybe alongside Ferdinand Lasalle, Alexander Herzen and Louis Delescluze.

After that I'd like to do an even later technology leading to Lenin, Luxembourg etc.

Any chance you can add Peter Kropotkin as a option too?

New update has gone live: there are now options during the Marx event to instead take genderswapped Marx and Engels (Karla and Freda), Bakunin or Proudhon.

Completely re-wrote the mod and it's working now. Just adding an option to pick the Karla/Freda options as a choice during the event rather than a random chance.