Thanks for the most hilariously idiotic commentary I've seen in a long while. I'm sorry you didn't have the 2 brain cells required to read any comments, including the one right below yours which straight up tells you it's old, and there are better options.

Have fun gagging your dogshit.

Guns float above tables when I use this. Id rather gag down a hot hunk of dogshit than use this mod again.

I wish I could, but this mod is many years old and there are far better alternatives. Try out sourcemod and you can use any of these 3 variations.

https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=2008482
https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=2008483
https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=2009073

Weapons spawn with no reserve ammo.:c

please fix it

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If you play the listed game modes, yes.

Sorry if this is a dumb question, does this also work for custom campaigns?

Replacing spawns with scripts has always been buggy so I'm not entirely sure there is a way to fix it without resorting to source mod. I actually quit using this myself long ago due to the limitations and moved to manually placing items with this plugin. https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=2008483

but there is one weird thing when you go in safehouse a you load into another chapter it spawns the meds twice soo u got 8 pills

Good job it works great i think you can make it as an another mod. But anyway you earned my points! Thanks :)

Yes. But it's RNG. Whatever the game rolls is what gets placed. I added an extra chance for pill spawns.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WEshCe-voVU9YMuGxUYZqxQyI0Fj_Tjn/view?usp=share_link

Thanks the first option is better. Have a great time and bye!

Due to how the conversion script works, you are only able to hook into every spawn. Meaning all healing items would have to be completely randomized and never consistent. You may have an overload of medkits one run, and none at all the next.

A better, more consistent, although difficult and out of my scope of skill method would be to decompile all the maps, and manually replace healing items in hammer editor.

But I will do the 1st method if you really want it.

hello could make a mod where medkits are rng and they would be rare (like 3 pills and 1 medkit inside saferoom) if u know what i mean. thanks

Hey good news
i finally got your mod to work!
after i got rid of this mod https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2008955902&searchtext=swim+ming

and this mod https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/workshop/filedetails/?id=2002471836

https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=2008483

This is what I use for weapon spawns now. It's some work going around and placing down spawns manually on each map, but you have exact control over however you want the game to handle them. There's a cvar to make even guaranteed spawns be randomized. I believe silver also has plugins for medcabinets, gun cabinets and ammo packs / laser sights too.

yes i do use sourcemod plugins, several in fact. I've been looking for plugins to absolutely randomize the weapon spawns but to my surprised there weren't any plugins for that yet (as far as i can dig in the forums)

Oh and btw i tried campaign singleplayer just in case and its the same issue with the wall of red text in the console the split second the map starts, I really do have bad luck with vscripts.

Thanks for helping me troubleshooting the mod though, i appreciate it.

This is the other option.

https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/workshop/filedetails/discussion/2544604169/3770112323613799359/

I greatly appreciate your interest in this mod, but the sourcemod methods to do this are much better and bug free. Plus you can manually place weapon spawns per map without editing the map files.

So there's 2 options you have to make this work. You can either swap to https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2754956355&searchtext=8+slot

and use sourcemod, which is what I personally do when I play.

Or

It won't work on mutations, only local servers for the default gamemodes. But since it looks like you know what you're doing, you can copy the data from my scripts and add them to the mutations. It's been a long time since I've touched left 4 dead 2 scripts, I've moved to creation engine modding so my memory is fuzzy. But I'm pretty sure active challenge mode is required to put the director in mutation mode which would mean it's looking for all these script changes opposed to just the default setting.

interfere with vscripts huh?

well yes i do play with mutations a lot and i play with this one the most
https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=527724216&searchtext=


i did a check the vscripts on it and it doesnt seem like it change much?
https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/ugc/2045233293326273050/98A778AB324802F14273753D50ECA6A4742D3F8D/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

The only thing that would interfere is if they edit the coop, realism and survival vscripts that this mod uses.

I just did some checking and I think it has something to do with my bot addons and 8 survivor plugins

https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/ugc/2045233293324546596/40F9560FF57C09E3518AFE4F98F50E60CACAD94D/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

Added an example image to the end of this mod. If you still can't figure it out, just send me a friend request. I'm home now and it would be faster to help you through there, since you can send me pictures of your console and all.

Nah, that's actually pretty common. I'm sure even vanilla tends to print out a large sum of errors. I can't get to it right now, but I'll add a picture for you.

seems like its really causing some errors in the console because its a wall of red, oh well, guess i just have bad luck when it comes to vscripts i guess

Did you open the console after loading a campaign? All text from vscripts appears there.

hi, You mentioned seeing the blue text with the message Activating True Weapon RNG ( Gamemode ) in the bug report discussion but i havent seen any so far

Yes it works for custom campaigns as the vscript checks directly for the weapon spawn itself. There aren't any commands, if you want to edit it you must decompile with gfscape and recompile with vpk.exe.

I'm confused about enabling and disabling the command what should I enter

Does this change the weapon stats? Does it work for custom maps?

Just a heads up, my testing and patch for this may be pushed back a few days. Currently working on some stuff for updating my game modes, while also taking breaks in between to have some time to myself.

No problem, and honestly, they're not a huuuuge issue in my playstyle. I let you know mostly because you might want to be in on the info ;-)

I'm not seeing a specific weapon pattern. No problems with any of the addons you listed. Later on I'm going to download those custom campaigns and check out the locations you gave me. I have a theory this may be happening for weapon spawns that are set to spawn a single individual weapon, the ammo bug happens and then that makes the weapon unable to be picked up since there was only a single reference in the spawn. If that turns out to be the case I can just not hook certain spawns that are known to cause issues. Most commonly we've seen places where hunting rifles spawn that were replaced tend to glitch the most. Should have either an answer or an update by Friday latest.

- Bots ignored the weapons. They're my easiest tell if a weapon is broken.
- I'm not quite sure if it counts for the director settings you're thinking of, but I was using Competitive-Bots+ Apocalypse Edition , which only affects the Infected spawns and behavior as far as I'm aware. At least in the add-ons menu, it doesn't warn me of any conflicts with True Weapon RNG. I'm also running Left 4 Bots , and it doesn't warn me of any conflicts either.

- No specific weapon or campaign. I've had it happen with an auto shotgun at the finale of Blood Tracks, two M16s in the first map of Back To School (in a shack by a bridge, after the first crescendo event, they replaced the fixed spawn Hunting Rifles on the mantlepiece), an Uzi in the second map of Cambalache, and just now, a Pump Shotgun at the starting room of Day Break.
- Playing single player, so probably counts as local server.

Sorry if it seems like a lot of questions but this will help me better look into it. I've seen this happen once with a chrome shotgun in the gun locker of dead center 1.

- Specific weapons that spawned you couldn't interact with?
- Specific campaign, chapter, and location?
- Local, modded dedicated, lan server?
- Did bots attempt to interact with the weapon?
- Are you running other gamemode / mutation / vscripts that use director settings?

New bug to report: sometimes, the game spawns "busted" weapons that you can't pick up at all. Only seen it happen with tier 2 guns so far.

Player
Not all glitches are bad ;-)

@Editor Beetle Glad you are enjoying it and making the best of an unintentional effect.

Player
The lack of reserve ammo is actually a cool effect if you're playing for fun on a lesser difficulty, makes ammo piles worth more and weapon pickups way less exploitable. I enjoy it.

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Damn, that sucks

After 2 days of testing and trying to individually hook only the spawn and only the weapon entity, I am unable to fix the issue with some weapons spawning without reserve ammo. This issue has been added to the known issues list and is just something that will have to be dealt with should you choose to use this. In positive light you could think of it as " Immersion " since it makes more sense to find a single weapon with only a clip versus 360 - 650 bullets.

I am looking into it to see if there's anything I can do. May have to mark it as a known issue. I'll work on some testing and tweaks for it to tonight, thank you for reporting.

It seems alot of guns spawn with no ammo

@El Quajinais★ It's a server sided glow color randomizer by Marttt.

https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=2730861

@Player - Huh I had no idea about that, pretty wack

This is a really cool feature! I'll try it out for sure.

Totally unrelated question, where did you get those outline colors for the guns and items? Look like really smooth colors.