Positive points about this ship:
This ship is like a swiss army knife with one exeption: It's much more deadly than a swiss army knife. Some creators are looking for design, others focus in survivability, usability, upgradeability, transport or exploration. Hands down this ship has everything and is designed to fit all roles at it fit all those roles without any disadvantage. As an example i like to point your attention towards the different bridges for different purposes. Everything is in place, where it should be. It's so perfect you'd like to cry.
If you're looking for THE swiss army knife who punches Zirax and Progenitors right in the face while keeping a soft smile look no further. You have found it. If you don't download this ship and use it in Empyrion ... well ... you will never know what real fun is.

Negative points about this ship:
i looked around, i was searching, over and over. There is none, simple as that.

Conclusion: Perfection !!!

I like this ship but don't like the rear hatch. Just inside the rear hatch you slope up the blocks and it makes it very hard to bring in some SV's. I may have to go to a different ship or the non Xeno version if it does not have the sloped entry. Otherwise I love this ship.

The ship has a major issue with ship thrusters. fill up those three ammo box and bam -20% on performance which was not great to begin with. Shame i fall for this on a survival server. Looks is great but that;s it. If you look for tips to improve on this, two more adv generators and replace the adv with drive thrusters would keep it in line to support it;s ammo and future Bastion upgarde.

Best Ship every

@TopAce6, Great. I just published new ship, tovera hunter THANATOS : https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2409506865
This one has much bigger hangar so you can continuously use that HV. The full upgraded version is quite powerful which requires around 8 mil CPU power with full heavy turrets. Though, it will require much more fuels :)

For hover tanks i was using, the Demon MK 3, but now i use this https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2331190358 and it Just Fit's Inside the Seekers Hangar bay! Which is totally Awesome!

The Demon was too slow/sluggish, and the new tank is quite nimble and stronger/better equipped to boot.

@TopAce6, I uploaded SEEKER XE modified version tovera hunting video @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB-2fRk2aM8
The basic idea is actually the same as your idea of plasma turrets. 24 plasma turret on upper side and remove all the laser turrets & replace cannon turrets with missile turrets. Nonetheless, this would be giving up planetary battle.

Then, use artillery cannons to aim core location. I was lucky to hit the core in the movie and finished tovera in around 10 minutes. Usually it takes more than 15 minutes but not more than 30 minutes using SEEKER XE modified version :) I tuned new ship and now it takes max 15 minutes, usually 10 minutes for quantum hunting:)

@TopAce6, thanks for understanding :) and what a cool name. Black Pearl. For fuel, I would recommend to set the turrets to aim weapons and turrets rather than generator, then destroy core with Artillery Cannons to save fuel tanks. Then, put my core and extract fuel + Oxygen.

I guess you would already know, but my recommendation for this gamer is

1) Get a good HV tanks (JRandall's HVs are the best) and explore ground POI. It is very speedy and great fun too.

2) Find 10 core systems and open ancient portal to go to explore ancient tech, which involves incredible POIs.

3) For drilling, at least I drill expensive OREs like platinum, gold for trade.

I will try to capture how to kill TOVERA with SEEKER later once I could make it less than 45 minutes. I am close to it :)

your designs are making double sense now that i think about Limit's, I'm even more impressed!

So far I've taken on and looted many battle carriers with zero hull dmg.

Once i save up the ammo, i know that i could defeat a dread with the seeker... but it will just take a long time for me right now, probably 2 hours from start to done looting.
And I'm still working on where exactly to sell the loot to pay for the ammo/pentaxid/power, A certain pirate base or something; there's a lot of different poi' for me to learn.

Now, I could mine for it.... but I'm trying to self sustain off of pirating. my Ship is Named the Black Pearl after all.

@TopAce6, Thanks for letting me know that you are new to this game:) Then, maybe it is worth exploring all the options including unlimited super ships.

My favorite ship is actually this SEEKER XE rather than any other monster that I created because it is more fun to challenge myself to improve my gaming skill rather than relying on unfairly super tools. There are so many good things to explore and challenges to overcome.

I even found a way to defeat TOVERA with this SEEKER XE, which was challenging but self-rewarding result rather than using unlimited plasma turrets :)

yea i'm so new that i didn't even have device limit in mind. the friend that got me in to the game a month ago, doesn't play with any limits, so its how i think by default, only till recently did i know there were other settings on by default.

@TopAce6, to prevent any misunderstanding, Ambassador XTS is a great ship and it is inspiring. I could kill tovera within few minutes with Ambassador XTS. Nonetheless, if you do not have device limit, war ship design will be about how to put more turrets rather than how to design the shape of ship, how to design bumper, how to place thrusters. Just putting more turrets is not fun for me. Of course I can build a stronger ship with more turrets than Ambassador XTS , but I thought it is meaningless because Ambassador XTS is already one of its kind, and I do not want to build a ship exceeding device limit.
The last point is now Quantum is right next to core. so if you use Ambassador XTS, you would not be able to get the Quantum easily, which is actually my struggle now. Killing dreadnought is not actually an issue...

@TopAce6, Thanks for sharing the info. Yes, Plasma is the most effective weapon for CV battle. The only reason I put rocket or flak turrets are 1) CPU cost in mid stage game - SEEKER class, 2) keeping device limit.

So, you have 24 device limit for each type of turrets in RE although Anvil or most of the server does not have device limit, which I really do not like and which is why I do not play Anvil. If you break the device limit, most effective CV killer would be a CV with 24 Artillery Cannons with 100~200 plasma turrets, which is not really playing game. Too easy.

If you keep device limit, the maximum plasma turrets would be 24 normal plasma + 12 heavy plasma, which are actually strong enough to kill any CV. Though, 24 normal plasma does not give you enough fire power to kill dreadnought.

I tested full heavy turret version within device limit for the tovera-hunter and killed dreadnought in 5 minutes.... It is up to you to decide whether you keep the device limit or not.

OH looks gorgeous! Cant wait.




Right now i'm, debating on whether to remove all missile turrets and replace with Plasma, and Lasers. Per this post

https://www.reddit.com/r/empyriongame/comments/ls3dj7/what_are_the_best_turrets_for_cvoncv_combat/gosmh4g/

that poster is the guy who made This Ship https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2383572501

Which he uses to kill dreads.


im trying to cut down on ammo cost and types/ Be more efficient

@TopAce6 I am now testing it and try to find a way to get quantum. For heavy turret hunting, please check the video :) 5.4 mil CPU version@ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoJ7u0SFEAY&t=232s

:) I'm impatiently awaiting your Dreadnaught Killer , Or any Hints/Clues about what you got in mind. :)

@TopAce6 Wow, Thanks a lot for sharing the screenshot. It looks so cool to know that you could get 5.9kW from blue giant. Also I like the defeated battlecarrier screenshot. I guess you could also get one heavy missile turret from the battlecarrier if you are lucky.

For battlecarrier battle, If you can aim the core accurately, you can destroy the core with 3~4 Artillery Cannon fire - simultaneous explosion of 12 Artillery Shells is extremely powerful. I usually aim the core as soon as the shield is off. It only takes 4~5 minutes to finish battle at most. you need to aim a little bit ahead of the battle carrier considering its speed and the distance.

Regarding the signal, I was going to use it for lighting purpose, but did not use it and forgot to remove it... so please ignore that one :)

ALSO, curious what this signal circled in red is for, i went through EVERY component on the ship and couldn't find anything related to it. https://i.imgur.com/AwyvxNM.jpg

https://imgur.com/a/W2bE0SE

some shots of your ship, battle carrier gave LOTS of valuable components, but i really like the shots of the ship charging overnight at the blue giant. Also use any of them if you want.

@TopAce6, I am happy that you found this ship useful. Heavy turrets have much strong firepower, which enabled me to lower the TOVERA shield quickly. Though, for the other lower level ships, this ship's default fire power is enough. In short, I would recommend heavy turrets only if you want TOVERA hunt or PvP.
Also, thanks for sharing generator setting result. I have not thought about it :)

don't the heavy turrets, have basically double the firepower? imo that would be useful regardless of cpu usage.
also Loving the ship, very powerful, the 12 manual arty really devastate stuff, have all turrets set to target generators only, works great leaves lots to be salvaged.

@H-DE Yeb, thanks for the info. Actually, if you do not have CPU limit, you would not need heavy turrets.
For me, the main reason to get Heavy Turrets is to hunt TOVERA-class dreadnaught to get quantum (they have two quantums). It is much easier to lower dedicated TOVERA shield. Also, if you hunt TOVERA, you would get heavy turrets as well.. so personally I do not search for upgrade kits..
Anyway, you are right. Unless you want to do PvP, you would not need heavy turrets in a server without CPU limit.

hey thanks fpr the feedback, i did get some upgrade from alien POI and some you find in the polaris trading station. i did not run after them so much as i am not sure if worth the time if you loos them after a battle.... as some bugs are there.

@TopAce6 For me, the only place I could find Large Turret Upgrade Kits was POI looting (not TOVERA, but one of the ground POI) That is why I did not put any heavy turrets in the blueprint.

Regarding battle, I would say battle against Battlecarrier should be fairly straight forward if you can do spiral evasive maneuver, but I would not recommend to hunt them because you would not get any valuable stuff from them.

New TOVERA class dreadnaught has lots of valuable stuff to salvage, but I would not recommend to use this ship to hunt dreadnaughts unless you know how to hunt it. For me, it costed me four SEEKER full version to figure out how to defeat dreadnaughts.

I figured out how to dodge most of the bullets, where the shield is, where the core is, where the guided missiles coming from, what would be the most effective angle to lower shield kind of stuff.

The biggest challenge to hunt dreadnaught is special dreadnaught shield

Curious, Where do i find Large Turret Upgrade Kits? I know that the new version of this ship doesn't require them. but i'm still interested in using them. I've searched all over and haven't seen any traders selling them.

also, how does this ship fair against Battlecarriers and dreadnaughts? i have the resources to build it FINALLY, but am curious before i spend them as im still relatively space poor. Basically is it a good combat ship?

@H-DE forgot to mention the decoy turret. From RE 1.4, some of the super space POI turrets are set to target only turrets and mounted weapons, so decoy generator alone does not work, so I updated this ship and ATHENA to have decoy turrets inside of bumper.

@H-DE yeb. it is xeno. I set the CPU limit to be 5.4 mil which can be covered by 10 Large Auxillery CPU at the first time, so it is a little bit tricky to reduce the weight. It will be again upgradable version.
New TOVERA is quite powerful so if you make small mistake then you may end up losing quite huge portion of your ship. From RE 1.4 update, especially Ammunition Storage seems to be easily exploding and blow huge portion of your ship, which requires careful interior design. At least the chain-explosion bug seems to be fixed, so I could test without issues.

If war ship is too powerful, then TOVERA is heavily damaged and there is nothing left... no heavy turrets nor quantum... In short, it is tricky and challenging, which is why it is fun to build :)

hey will the new ship be in xeno, i like the new build a lot

You bet. Keep em coming!

@Tarsis Thanks for catching my mistake I fixed the description :)

Is this line needed?

>> 4x Artillery Turret -> (upgradable to 4x)