Cities: Skylines

Cities: Skylines

The Great Plan - Fixed Railroad Connections
40 Comments
codewitch  [author] 19 Dec, 2024 @ 12:22pm 
@Aqvelina
@Alundra (Alunny)
@Billy Beane -- This was a problem with the original map this *attempts* to solve due to "Technical problems with the map editor". Please provide additional context, and, check your version.
@jams_obseoyo - not from the start. No. You can fix it with mods "At Save Time" or "At Map Editor Time".

Some Intersections are available!
It is :). I've provided the information enough. I believe either you are referring to "Smooth Interchange" by Impact! or others; but you did not describe them enough sorry.
Aqvelina 18 Dec, 2024 @ 4:40am 
Can we get the big cross-section as an asset pleace. :)
Billy Beane 8 Jan, 2023 @ 2:28am 
no sure why i still dont get any train travel to city or getting out from city
jams_obseoyo 27 Dec, 2022 @ 9:30pm 
Hey there! I'm wondering if this map is suitable for left-hand drive? I have heard that there can be some issues with highway junctions on custom maps if they are designed for right-hand drive :)
Alundra (Alunny) 24 Oct, 2022 @ 7:50am 
Are there any intersections that match the highways? :)
codewitch  [author] 12 Sep, 2022 @ 1:48pm 
Tourists will always generally the best route, however - if you have, say, a space elevator, you may see the tourist traffic of trains or highways (intercity buses and private cars) drop to zero. They do not necessarily mean tourists will come. If you use, say, unlock all and put a station down, no one might be interested in visiting.

The workshop station might not be correctly using a "station track". You can only create station stops (and thus the automatic ones used by intercity trains) on station tracks. You may be able to replace the segments with station segments using Network Multitool (NMT)'s "Unlock Segment" mode. Be sure to re-lock the segments & only use station tracks (generally can be found using Find It! 2, be sure you have them for any custom tracks) for stations - not railway/other rail elsewhere.
Wertherland 11 Sep, 2022 @ 6:00pm 
Yes, you are actually right, glad you answered me. I was getting cargo trains but no passengers. The issue was not the fixed connections (which are actually fixed) it was the workshop station I was using. I changed to generic and others and trains started bringing cims. I also have the allow intercity trains MOD.

My understanding is that trains do bring tourists to visit your parks and attractions. They bring them to your commercial areas as well.

BTW, it is a beautifully designed map. Thank you.
codewitch  [author] 8 Sep, 2022 @ 3:01pm 
@Wertherland What does "bring tourism" mean? That wasn't the issue with the map - they would jam because of the highway entrance outside connections had nodes too close to the rails, causing traffic. Rails don't "bring tourism" - they bring passengers and cargo. Place a freight station. If freight comes, you have another problem - city attractiveness, or just too many better options for CIMs to visit (roads, planes, ships, space elevator). Also check "allow intercity trains" if you have the unofficial patcher mod
Wertherland 6 Sep, 2022 @ 5:24pm 
This is still NOT working. Wonderful map, but not useful if rail network won't bring tourism
Architect117 9 Mar, 2022 @ 1:32pm 
Thanks a lot that works for me. Ily :)
codewitch  [author] 9 Mar, 2022 @ 1:23pm 
@Architect117 you need to use "Cross The Line" + Camera Positions utility or be playing 81-tiles unlock all AT THE START OF THE GAME. Then also use "Unlimited Outside connections" (even if you don't go over) and possibly, more network stuff for sea/plane routes)
Architect117 9 Mar, 2022 @ 10:36am 
I don't understand how I can do these changes if I already buid a city on the old map.

I can't change the exits (the ones out of the map) can I? So what can I do? Thank you.
codewitch  [author] 2 Mar, 2022 @ 8:22pm 
ATTN: new version - The Great Plan Infrastructure+
codewitch  [author] 27 Feb, 2022 @ 8:52pm 
@Architect117
me:
(from a quote-reply) >>> "There is a problem with this map. Trains get stuck in a traffic jam and all traffic freezes"
If you are referring to the intersections on the map, that is likely due to the turning radius and crossings of the railways. I am working on a fixed version that completely replaces them.

(from description) >>>
Railway: Rail connections are now separated from the highway network by going over an elevated portion then spacing out from the highway. It is believed the issue stems from how the game internally handles railway connections with passengers and issues that can happen if road connections, including highways, are to close.

Add spacing between the rail connections and the highway, about 12u (96m) should do.

Optionally repeat any optimizations to the central rail intersection and lane-math the highway interchanges or replace them.
codewitch  [author] 27 Feb, 2022 @ 8:30pm 
@Architect117 yes
Architect117 26 Feb, 2022 @ 1:48pm 
Is there a way to fix the railway on the old map version? I already built my city :( @asterisk11231
codewitch  [author] 6 Feb, 2022 @ 1:57pm 
@Lord Shalimov
>>> "в этой карте есть проблема. Поезда становятся в пробку и замирает весь трафик"
(Ответить; машинный перевод)
Yesli vy imeyete v vidu perekrestki na karte, to, skoreye vsego, iz-za radiusa povorota i peresecheniya zheleznykh dorog. YA rabotayu nad ispravlennoy versiyey, kotoraya polnost'yu zamenyayet ikh.

Yesli vmesto etogo vy imeyete v vidu vneshniye podklyucheniya, eto dolzhno ispravit' eto, poetomu, pozhaluysta, soobshchite, yesli u nikh voznikayut problemy, ne svyazannyye s ocheredyami na perekrestkakh.
codewitch  [author] 6 Feb, 2022 @ 1:57pm 
@Lord Shalimov (machine translation)
>>> "There is a problem with this map. Trains get stuck in a traffic jam and all traffic freezes"
If you are referring to the intersections on the map, that is likely due to the turning radius and crossings of the railways. I am working on a fixed version that completely replaces them.

If you are instead referring to the outside connections, this should fix that, so please inform if those are having issues that aren't from queues at the intersections.
codewitch  [author] 6 Feb, 2022 @ 1:53pm 
@SethEarlDieter
@Kiverty
Here's the collection. Some of the intersections require NEXT2, which I do not support nor intend to include. Use RON to customize the included networks.

https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/workshop/filedetails/?id=556917026

Also refer to @Lord Shalimov 's comment, in English (machine translation) :
>>> "There is a problem with this map. Trains get stuck in a traffic jam and all traffic freezes"
Manhunt 6 Feb, 2022 @ 8:20am 
в этой карте есть проблема. Поезда становятся в пробку и замирает весь трафик
codewitch  [author] 9 Jan, 2022 @ 5:06pm 
@SethEarlDieter The traffic throughput of the interchange is severely limited and I usually have to re-engineer or replace them on the map
ElMarcianoGrande 31 Dec, 2021 @ 5:35pm 
@asterisk11231 what does "it doesn't scale" mean?
codewitch  [author] 31 Dec, 2021 @ 7:45am 
@SethEarlDieter @Kiverty I know what it is and it doesn't scale. I am planning to upload an updated version.
Kiverty 30 Dec, 2021 @ 1:37am 
@SethEarlDieter you can find the link of the original interchange on the original release of the map
ElMarcianoGrande 29 Dec, 2021 @ 8:36am 
Can I find the large 4-way interchange pictured anywhere? Every time I try to recreate that interchange by hand, I can never get it right like the one that comes with the map
w1ndnd 25 Dec, 2021 @ 11:41am 
All I want is a map that has good highway connections, because I don't care about looks, I just want to build out.
WaKKO151 4 Jun, 2021 @ 5:23am 
I can not believe no one has done a let's play for this map yet.
codewitch  [author] 3 Jun, 2021 @ 6:43pm 
@Bigtonytomato too many offices
WaKKO151 3 Jun, 2021 @ 1:48pm 
Angel Island for No Road connection games. The Great Plan for everything else.
codewitch  [author] 11 Apr, 2021 @ 11:38pm 
2/2:

Scenario 3: This could be related to a demand issue from export capacity of your roads/cargo export and/or commercial zones. So if you don't really need to produce more goods, than no one might want to make more industries to make them.
codewitch  [author] 11 Apr, 2021 @ 11:38pm 
Scenario 1:
You have too many educated sims. The demand can change based off of your city's demographics and/or are using the industry DLC industries (which take industrial jobs but don't work with the same way with demand). If you have that scenario, Biffa has a video for "fixing no office demand" that might help, or at the very least try "industry 4.0" for specialized or high-level industries. You can also check your population for "unemployment" percentages.

Scenario 2:
There *could* be a cargo problem, perhaps if you get a lot of cargo by train there is a point in your line with a mod like TM:PE and despawning disabled that trains are backing up? This can cause "no goods" for commercial and industry, which if I had to guess, can, overtime, lead to loss in demand.
codewitch  [author] 11 Apr, 2021 @ 11:38pm 
@Bigtonytomato - No, not that I'm aware of.
Bigtonytomato 10 Apr, 2021 @ 6:59am 
Would there be any reason, map related i would be getting no industrial demand?
codewitch  [author] 17 Feb, 2021 @ 8:34pm 
@Emiricol4Rl Thanks, it really is a hack. Tunnels would have been more elegant or a complete rework of the highways (I hate those ones, I'd rather run it parallel) but from not having "Map Editor Tunnel Enabler" and just wanting to do a quick fix I decided that could be up to you, the user.

@Dimensional One I could not fix the lines with cross the line mod due to a in-game limitation preventing un-deleting railway lines. Perhaps your luck was better, but it was the same problem and same fix every time so I just, fixed it.
Emiricol4Rl 17 Feb, 2021 @ 4:29pm 
Fantastic, thanks so much for fixing this! I always wanted to try the map, but didn't have time to try to hack a fix myself. "A++, Would subscribe again."
Dimensional One 17 Feb, 2021 @ 1:10pm 
Thank you for this. It's basically the only map I ever play and I initially got the cross the line and outside connections to fix Mulleboy's map. I loved it, and am glad there's a fixed version. Thanks to you both.
Trapsss_ 9 Feb, 2021 @ 10:48am 
Agora sim, Obrigado mano, agora esta funcionando corretamente os trens!
Mr. Anderson 15 Nov, 2020 @ 3:26pm 
Using your map to praktice a bit, can say that everything is so far so good. Upon placing my first railway station, trains started to arrive true the outside connections.
codewitch  [author] 13 Nov, 2020 @ 8:55pm 
@ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ thotiana ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ , thank you. Let me know how well it works for you, and I'd appreciate it if you can send me a save game with some trains setup for testing purposes. I'm not sure "how many" I'm gonna need to throw at it to properly repro since I never quite did a before-and-after test either. If you're using mods and such, feel free to use a generated list by a tool like Mods Listing on the workshop
Thank you for this!