Is this the same file as the Nexus file or the Nexus file very out of date?
I'm using the GOG version of X4 so I can't download off the workshop

thank you

no, you should not assign them to the stations, I would just use fleets, use the mass assignment feature, its explained in randomsupply description at the bottom

Thanks! I didn't know randomSupply could be used to sell my wares. Can I assign the ships that are randomly supplying to my stations so that they are not cluttered in my unassigned ships menu?

No, use RandomSupply instead

can I use this to sell the wares my station produces?

mods are old, I wrote them when the game released because the logic back then was really bad. Now the vanilla logic is actually pretty decent, so you actually don't need this one later in the game, like when you have 5 trade ships or so you can start using the vanilla logic.
randommine is difficult, I thought about discontinuing the mod because I never could get it run like I wanted after ego introduced ore depletion mechanic.

This and RandomMine both couse periodic stutters in my games. both on 6.4 and 7.0 it runs fine 130 FPS then spikes with 1-4 FPS if any of these mods are enabled. any ideas? only me?

Thanks for your "random" mods. I always found the vanilla logic too simple and restrictive or simply too much micromanagement with repeat.
So thanks again!

This doesn't work with mimic, so can't seem to form fleets of trading ships to Random Trade. Ships just generate errors

nope, sorry, not worth it, if you have that huge fleet you probably good enough with the vanilla trade logic, it is fairly good now compared to when I wrote this mod.

hey so i noticed this mod sadly introduces a lot of lag, i have a single tradefleet with 150 ships and its dropping my fps to 2-3 fps very frequently. telling all of the random traders to stop fixes the stutters. i also had them all seperate without a fleet and that too did start to stutter. can you look into improving performance there?

@Zerox This mod is older than the mimic feature and contains its own fleet option. Just set the subordinates to 'defend commander'. The next time the commander restarts the script it will propagate the orders to the subordinates (either wait for that or cancel existing orders of the commander to force trigger it)

Just want to give you a heads up, this mod (or one of the other two random mods) disables the tags for repeat orders. You can still select it but start queue and orders are disabled. Why not just disable repeat orders itself? It would cause less confusion. The random mods themselves work fine and somewhat compensate for repeat orders.

I see your mod have a "update subordinates" option so i thought that you can make fleets with it but when i try to mimic commander behavior it doesnt work. It is posible to make trader fleets with this? thx in advance

@Andro I got "Buying 0 Claytronics from..." and thet trade ship is stuck with "?". Do you have an idea what might have caused this?
I put buy offer of the item to both in logical station overview and plan build.
Another possible problem I found is the ship is planning to buy on an unexplored map (but known trade price because of faction license). They all simply frozed without reporting anything.

This mod has been extending mimicry part really well: https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2092839403

Also mimicry is not new, it was introduced in version 4.0.

How i've understood it works technically, mimicing ships just copy their default orders from the commander periodically (looking at the commander captain levels for anything level related etc). If you could get it working you could get rid of your "Update subordinates" part completely and you don't need to copy the ships over to new group (which also would fix your mod not working with Player Restock Subordinates mod as it reassigns the ships to wrong group since the group you're moving the ships to technically don't exist for ships).

ok not gona touch mimic assignment. That vanilla script runs tons of commands which would probably interfere and which I don't wana touch and probably egosoft will keep changing it in the future and keep breaking my mods.

Mimic is new in 6.0 i believe, yeah i week check that out, just busy at the moment. Thanks for pointing that out

Nice work.

Suggestion. Right now it seems for the fleet to work, all the ships need to be the same size. But sometimes I want to have a mixture of L and M freighters. Throw some VIG scavengers also into mix. Would it be possible to adjust the system to support those (for example I remember reading here in the comments you said it works like because you are using Defence fleet method as trigger, maybe replace it to support mimicry instead?)

fixed

Yeah know about that, was just reported recently, will check once i have time

As it's one of the few trading mods actually updated - tried it.
The main ship works fine but any ships assigned to fleet don't do anything (yes I set them as defence and the script did switch them to traders), but they just did nothing, just sat in place.

Sure

Hey Mate, do you need help to implement the factions again? Not all factions are listed in your mod.

I know about the 'scale min profit' slider; what I'm saying is that I'd like an option for them to try to find a trade at 100%, then if that fails, try again looking for merely 85%, then once more at 75%, then finally at 65%. Basically, after every failed attempt to find a trade, instead of sitting there like a lump for thirty minutes, to try again with more permissive slider, and only sit like a lump if they fail the third attempt, but either way, reset to full next time.

2: it is configurable, "scale min profit" slider

I don't know if you're still working on this mod, and if you're not, I get that. (I've abandoned a few my own self.)

If you are, however, I might make a suggestion or three:

1. Update it so that the mod can handle newer factions. My RandomTraders won't trade with the Vigor Syndicate, among others.

2. An option setting; if the RandomTrade fails to find a trade with the profit margin it wants, it will drop its expectations and search again, scaling back the required profit margin percentage. Perhaps let the player configurate this (IE, if failed to find a trade, drop by any amount they want and try again; then again with another drop, etc), or else just have it drop by 15/30/45. This will let the player keep the expectations high, but go a long way to prevent traders sitting around holding their throttles by lowering their expectations and generating something .

Addendum: I left for a few hours, came home, and they'd done some more work, so... I'm not sure exactly what's going on, but it seems that it's working, just not immediately efficiently. But as long as they're getting something done, that's probably good enough. Thank you!

It seems like my RandomTraders are just sitting around doing nothing. They just sit with a big question-mark. They didn't do that at first, they got out and moved, but now they're not doing anything. I thought it might be a lack of satellite coverage, but I just identified and manually forced a very profitable silicon wafer trade, entirely remotely, so there is profit to be made.

They're just not flying. Is there a hidden minimum Management score requirement for the captains to go fly AutoTrade routes? Or a critical point below which they're unable to identify that a trade is profitable and just won't do it? I have pilots at least one star on the ships so they're taking the order, but they just refuse to fly.

thanks for the mod brother love it

Please clarify what "Update subordinates" option does?

Works with Ver 5.0.
However, we have not yet confirmed any transactions with the DLC:ToA faction.

I have a Questtion.
Is there a way to add more factions. espacially the terran and segaris?

Great mod.! I'm just starting out, but I like that I can have my pilots help me with the admin work.

I just want to echo the sentiments of the last few people to leave comments. While I would love the mod to be absolutely perfect in every way, it's not realistic to expect you to spend your time and energy on making that happen, particularly when you're not playing the game. People are just way too entitled these days.

Thanks so much for all of your great mods, and please don't let the non-developers (who don't understand how much time and energy is involved) bring you down. The fact you've made and shared these in the first place is awesome, and I couldn't play the game without them.

thank you for feedback

This is a fantastic mod. Works amazingly well. I've read you don't play this game, so I really respect that you've kept this up. I've only just started playing this game and wasn't a fan of the trading system (or the other trading mods), but this is EXACTLY what I was looking for. Thank you!

thank you for feedback

@Andro
Please, don't get mad because of all these not so inattentive/unpatient people. Your mods an excellent! I personally use them from day one I discovered them. Yes, at the beginning I also had some problems/misunderstanding, was even reading descriptions a few times... Now I can't imagine any gamestarts without your mods. Vanilla, VRO, Star Wars, etc. Recently I tried Tater Trader 4, but didn't like it. So, yes, thank you very much for your time and effort you spent on creating a great mods!!! Regards!

It was.
I shouldn't have assigned you directly to the station.
I had to set up a fleet of merchant ships and make the station my home, didn't I?
It's been so long, I've forgotten.

Thanks, great mod!

and no, it does not make it impossible to add protecting ships. The mod will _only_ overwrite defending ships if they are the same ship type. e.g. M sized frighter assigned to another M sized frighter, you dont really want to defend your trade ships with other trade ships. assign anything else, like small fighters and they won't be overwritten

I have answered a few comments ago. This mod is old and there were not many options to choose when I scripted it. I choose defend, thats all.

Wanted to ask, why u have to put on "defence" for fleet trading or supplying? Why cant option "follow" be used? it kinda makes it impossible to add Protection ships for trader fleet, no? Or at least it will mix up trader and combat ships in single list.

You don't beleave how many people complained that their ships did not fill their stations and it turned out that they did not have enough station budget.... untill I uploaded the second picture "troubleshooting"... then it immediately stopped, maybe I should do the same with the other stuff.

If I got a $ for everyone who does not read the desctiption, I would be rich now. Keep in mind I dont get anything for sharing my work with others. I could just delete it alltogehter and not be bothered with telling people to read the desctiption.
Can you blame me for not wanting to hack into some new stuff and potentially produce new bugs because it would bring no benefit? It works as it is right now, I dont play this game anymore, why should I have intentions to spend my free time for no benefit? Be happy that I made the new factions work. Take a look at other mods where the devs stopped playing the game, latest update was 2 years ago and you can't even reach the devs. Turn on your brain, read the desctiption and earn my respect, if you do you will get it, that much about being an absolute ass.

Thank you for saying you have no intention to support the built in behavior and answering my initial question after calling me a liar and being an absolute ass.

Here I will copy and paste it for you from the RandomSupply mod's desciption:

Mass assignment:
1. Assign multiple ships to 1 ship of the same size and category (e.g. M-miner) with righclick chhoosing "[standard] defend".
2. Set up the lead ship as you want.
3. The ships assigned to defence will start copying the setting one by one from the lead ship.
PS: you can also assign the ships whenever you want to the lead ship (e.g. while it executes trade orders). For (3) to kick in you will then just have to wait untill it finishes trading and starts to search for new trades.
My other mods support mass assignment aswell.

did you follow the steps I have written in the description?
You are scaring off others who might read that and think "ok its not for me" just because you did not understand how the mod works.
What you described is a new feature of the game V 4.00, this mod existed before that feature so it does not use it and I am not interested in implementing it, because the mod has already something similar. You just need to read the description.

Which part is a lie? That there's a nice, red follow icon on my ship list saying "This ship cannot assist its commander with their current default behavior"? Neither RandomTrade nor RandomSupply get passed down through the Mimic command, instead the game uses a fallback and just has the subordinate ship follow. If you have such a hard time believing me I'll stream it for you.