Originally posted by ApertureFestive:

I don't support youtube that much.
Its too overrun with people playing video games.

Seriously, go outside.
Or at the very least go out to buy a steam card to buy that game.

Why the hell do people like watching other people play games?

It's just a form of entertainment. I understand if you don't like it.
I don't like most of the American humor, but I'm not thinking why people watch it.
It's just that people have a different taste.

Most Let's Plays are cancerous in my opinion. Extremely cheesy commentaries make me cringe.

Originally posted by Fork_Q2:

Originally posted by dom:

YouTube would be much better if people paid for it, honestly. That would pressure content creators to actually make good content or else they'll lose the money (paid subscribers). I'm also tired of the counter-argument 'he owes you nothing' when I critisize a youtuber acting like a crybaby in front of a camera.

Generally YouTube content is so bad that I doubt many people would pay for it, as it is. With the paid subscription feature, there would probably be a huge boost in quality of the videos. That's what I'd really like to happen.

I think there's decent stuff already there, and they don't need money or the backing of larger production companies to produce content. YouTube's strength is that it's a very democratic platform, one guy like Totalbiscuit could compete for views with giants like IGN, and that one day TB will be replaced by someone else with just a mic and a gaming PC.

We don't know the full details of Youtube Red yet, once it's fully rolled out, would a content creator require invitation from YouTube themselves to host content behind the paywall, or could anyone do it? The former is quality control, but also means YouTube loses what made it great in the first place (it's democratic nature). The latter means both paid and unpaid accounts will have no difference in quality. I'm not crazy about either possibility.

I didn't mean that they need backing of large production companies. What I meant, is that viewers get to actually decide whether the person gets the money or not for his YouTube videos. That is a system I'd love. Whatever the way of doing this is, I'll probably support it.

This would pressure creators to try their real best at viewer satisfaction, rather than clickbait titles and unfunny penis jokes. Because I've noticed that "free" actually has its price. Most videos on YouTube are complete waste of time and have no creative process behind them whatsoever.

Also, the new 'ad-friendly' policy, which YouTube has no control over; advertises can always choose what type of videos they want to advertise their products in. YouTuber loses 5% of his ad revenue due to this, he blames Google and makes crybaby videos how YouTube is killing him; talking about dudes with millions and millions of views, surely can live life normally with that -5%.

Just goes to show how disrespectful youtubers are. And most of them cry how their job is hard even though rarely youtubers have any creative process behind their content.

It's good that YouTube is free, if the quality is what it is at the moment.

Originally posted by Fork_Q2:

Originally posted by A Jaidenanimations Fanboy:

I just came to check on the thread and I'll rejoin it I guess


But YouTube red is kind of supposed to be an easy way for youtubers to get their own show.

I know, I just don't think the dual business model (one free and ad-driven, the other hidden behind a paywall) works to be honest. Do one or the other. Most of YouTube's content is easily accessible, short and very DIY (don't have to be much more than camera on a commentator). Being free and supported by ads is perfect for that type of content.

Youtube Red, by being paid access, has to compete with other paid access stuff like Netflix and Amazon Prime. PewDiePie vs. Game of Thrones quality here, it's hard to justify, even if you really love PDP.

YouTube would be much better if people paid for it, honestly. That would pressure content creators to actually make good content or else they'll lose the money (paid subscribers). I'm also tired of the counter-argument 'he owes you nothing' when I critisize a youtuber acting like a crybaby in front of a camera.

Generally YouTube content is so bad that I doubt many people would pay for it, as it is. With the paid subscription feature, there would probably be a huge boost in quality of the videos. That's what I'd really like to happen.

Originally posted by robomagon:

Bronies are pedophiles.

A pony, by definition, is an underage horse.

Cool but brony doesn't mean that the person is attracted to ponies, by the definition of a 'brony'.

My country used to be on top with the PISA results, since then we've been falling. Glad to see the younger generation isn't so hopeless in every country. Although I don't care, because I feel like education is solely based on individual's own motivation.

Originally posted by Shadowcon66:

Originally posted by dom:

Cool. But tbh, Reddit karma is literally a joke.
Circlejerking = karma
Unstoppable shitposting = karma

i prefer the shitposting part

Yeah, people made a comment chain sentence-by-sentence, that turned into full we are number one lyrics. Every contributor got like hundreds of karma. It's pretty simple.

Cool. But tbh, Reddit karma is literally a joke.
Circlejerking = karma
Unstoppable shitposting = karma

It's still very cheap lol

Haha serious boy

Yes. And you? With this response, I don't think you are.

1. It's drama-prone

C'mon, the best way to change this is by not responding to any drama-related threads. Encourage others to do the same thing. The more you or anybody else show attention to these threads, the more motivated people are to post them.

2. Lots of jerks and goodytwo-shoes

This applies to Steam community, too, and it's something that can't be changed.
People can always choose which discussion they would like to contribute to and ignore everything else. This way they'll only help discussions they're interested in.

3. Mods bad at moderating

Moderators are not dictators and they're not supposed to restrict peoples' freedom of speech.

4. FRC doesn't like FF

FRC = all members, not just one.

5. Anatolia is lurking in the shadows.

There is nothing wrong with lurking, unless it invades on peoples' privacy, which is not the case.

6. Constant bandwagons

Not group's fault.

These points are bad.