I wouldn't mind a Thief 2 Gold with SR come back to voice briefing for a few more levels, maybe flesh out casing the joint more.

Originally posted by BrotherMurus:

for a few more levels

the thief2 campaign feels long enough already, do we really need to stretch it even more beyond the point of overstaying its welcome?

the first two levels and soulforge could use some revamp

It was planned before LGS got shut down, a whooping five missions, it is a bit of a cursed project for the FM authors though, mainly the expectation from the community, and then what little is left from LGS' assets.

Now let's suppose Night Dive obtained the right to remaster it magically...They could be just extra individual levels not integrated into OM, like Jensen's Stories in Mankind Divided.

If that doesn't work either I am contend with just make more detail objects, a small visual upgrade and revamp of levels here and there.

Terrible idea. The System Shock 2 remaster looks absolutely awful. Night Dive should stay far away from Thief.

Originally posted by Wei:

Terrible idea. The System Shock 2 remaster looks absolutely awful.

No, it doesn't.

That said, I don't think I need a Thief remaster. With the TFix patches, there's all I need in the games.

Originally posted by chakkman:

No, it doesn't.

That said, I don't think I need a Thief remaster. With the TFix patches, there's all I need in the games.

Yes, yes it does. The updated models stick out like a sore thumb, in the worst way possible. And the textures are from that horrible mod, SHTUP. System Shock 2 didn’t need a remaster either.

I never like how Tfix looks, somehow it makes the shadow really grey, pitch dark never look as dark as the light gem, it is something that I can only replicate with a pixalate filter from reshade.

Software mode does it too, but tfix took that away as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hIKym6rKH0

Originally posted by Wei:

Originally posted by chakkman:

No, it doesn't.

That said, I don't think I need a Thief remaster. With the TFix patches, there's all I need in the games.

Yes, yes it does. The updated models stick out like a sore thumb, in the worst way possible. And the textures are from that horrible mod, SHTUP. System Shock 2 didn’t need a remaster either.

The Trickster's forehead tattoo looks like ♥♥♥♥♥, the SS2 remaster looks like sore thumb... What's next? 😉

Originally posted by chakkman:

The Trickster's forehead tattoo looks like ♥♥♥♥♥, the SS2 remaster looks like sore thumb... What's next? 😉

Chances are we'll disagree on something else too.

The System Shock 2 Remaster is a lot of fun, and I enjoy the minor gameplay changes they made. I think Night Dive should remaster Thief by combining both campaigns under the Thief 2 engine, fix some of the bugs, and make it so the settings can register additional mouse buttons.

Originally posted by chakkman:

Originally posted by Wei:

Yes, yes it does. The updated models stick out like a sore thumb, in the worst way possible. And the textures are from that horrible mod, SHTUP. System Shock 2 didn’t need a remaster either.

The Trickster's forehead tattoo looks like ♥♥♥♥♥, the SS2 remaster looks like sore thumb... What's next? 😉

How about Raytracing?

https://www.thiefguild.com/fanmissions/52823/thief-2-rtx-mod

Do you think that looks good?

Originally posted by BrotherMurus:

Originally posted by chakkman:

The Trickster's forehead tattoo looks like ♥♥♥♥♥, the SS2 remaster looks like sore thumb... What's next? 😉

How about Raytracing?

https://www.thiefguild.com/fanmissions/52823/thief-2-rtx-mod

i wonder if those procedurally generated shadows affect Garret's visibility though

Tfix is all that’s needed.

Originally posted by Wei:

Originally posted by chakkman:

No, it doesn't.

That said, I don't think I need a Thief remaster. With the TFix patches, there's all I need in the games.

Yes, yes it does. The updated models stick out like a sore thumb, in the worst way possible. And the textures are from that horrible mod, SHTUP. System Shock 2 didn’t need a remaster either.

Me when I like being a contrarian.