Mount & Blade: Warband

Mount & Blade: Warband

A World of Ice and Fire
Never ending truce
I started the game with sandbox mode on instead of using static wars. I encountered this problem way back during the earlier versions of this mod and I remember using static wars, so i guess they are not related. Other faction truces end normally when the 20 days are over, but mine are stuck at the 20 days mark. I doubt a fix exists, and I just wanted to point the bug out.
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Halfas 10 Apr, 2020 @ 12:43am 
I have the same problem. Tried a new Game in sandbox mode, stuck at 20 days mark. Tested both workshop and moddb version.
ReMeDy 11 Apr, 2020 @ 6:06pm 
Same. In addition, it appears Casus Belli are stuck on 30 days. Truce though are very concerning; doesn't that mean factions can't declare war? That would lead to super stale gameplay.
Last edited by ReMeDy; 11 Apr, 2020 @ 6:13pm
we eaten beans 12 Apr, 2020 @ 12:23am 
You may as well break the truce by declaring war, it doesn't seem the consequences are that extreme if you choose upstanding vassals.
ReMeDy 12 Apr, 2020 @ 12:37am 
Originally posted by we eaten beans:
You may as well break the truce by declaring war, it doesn't seem the consequences are that extreme if you choose upstanding vassals.

Sorry, can you expand on that? Are you saying I can break the Truce by declaring war myself if I'm allied to one of the two factions in a Truce? I'm still kind of new to the mod.

If I'm not allied to either faction, I assume the Truce still stands between their two factions.

Btw, I've also reported this Truce issue on their main Discord. Several others have also, so hopefully it gets a hotfix.
Last edited by ReMeDy; 12 Apr, 2020 @ 12:40am
we eaten beans 12 Apr, 2020 @ 3:30am 
Originally posted by ReMeDy:
Originally posted by we eaten beans:
You may as well break the truce by declaring war, it doesn't seem the consequences are that extreme if you choose upstanding vassals.

Sorry, can you expand on that? Are you saying I can break the Truce by declaring war myself if I'm allied to one of the two factions in a Truce? I'm still kind of new to the mod.

If I'm not allied to either faction, I assume the Truce still stands between their two factions.

Btw, I've also reported this Truce issue on their main Discord. Several others have also, so hopefully it gets a hotfix.


If you manage to construct your own kingdom, you can declare war on the faction that you have a permanent truce with in order to remove it by sending an embassy. However, this is a short term 'fix' to the situation as the potential of encountering this bug is still prevalent if you want peace with the faction you're at war with.

As stated previously, this comes with a cost of losing player reputation and relation with your vassals, this depends on the personality of your vassals. In my play through I managed to lose -3 or -4 relation points with my vassals, each one being upstanding.

I recommend not accepting any truces or asking for truces if you don't want to encounter this bug, you may as well continue fighting until the faction loses all their territories (castles, towns, villages) because from what I can tell their is no other solution I know that can break the permanent truce.

I'm sure this bug doesn't effect AI factions that go into truces, I remember they could go to war with the same faction they had a truce with when the 20 days were over. However, I could remember one time this bug did effect other factions. So take this for granted. I don't know how to break their truces though. Don't use static wars, rather use the vanilla warband one if you ever manage to get into a situation like this.

PS: I'm not sure if you can encounter a Casus Belli situation with the faction your in truce with in order to negate the consequences of declaring war, I could be wrong. And you're right about the Casus Belli being stuck at the 30 day mark.

PPS: For allied factions, I'm not certain about that particular part of the mod, I usually skip over that mechanic. I haven't tried that out, but it may or may not work.
Včelí medvídek 12 Apr, 2020 @ 5:40pm 
I am not aware the bug because I dont play Sandbox - but is lord quest of raid caravans here? That should allow make new wars as possible workaround.
ReMeDy 12 Apr, 2020 @ 8:16pm 
Originally posted by Včelí medvídek:
I am not aware the bug because I dont play Sandbox - but is lord quest of raid caravans here? That should allow make new wars as possible workaround.

From what people have tested though, what mode you pick shouldn't matter. The bug should be affecting your game also, at least until you start seeing Truces and anything with a countdown turn timer in the relations window.

Not sure on that quest. I'll keep an eye out.
Last edited by ReMeDy; 12 Apr, 2020 @ 8:17pm
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