Arma 3
JSRS SOUNDMOD
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CDN_BiggDogg 17 Apr, 2018 @ 10:39am
External Heli Sounds Extremely too loud!
I love this sound mod but I'm considering not using it just for the fact that the external sounds for helicopters (and maybe other aircraft) are simply way too loud to the extreme.

I play with a group of friends and we all agree. The sound of the helo's drowns out everything else, including external comms programs like team speak, sending us on a mad race to get the computer volume turned down before we suffer permanent hearing damage!

My complaint is only about the volume. I realize that in real life they are loud but this is a game, sim or not, and it's extremely louder than all the other in game sounds. My hope is the volume can be reduced to a more manageable level?

BTW, this complaint comes from before the Tanks DLC drop so if you are in the process of changing the sounds please consider lowering the third person view volume for aircraft. Thanks
Last edited by CDN_BiggDogg; 24 Apr, 2018 @ 4:29am
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Lights 22 Apr, 2018 @ 5:53am 
Yeah, Helicopter sounds in Third Person are loud as heck.
Slider 24 Apr, 2018 @ 4:18am 
Yup Agree, is there anyway to change this?
SoulTechnology 1 May, 2018 @ 6:39pm 
if your using ace (might be an aceX feature) you can have adaptive (and smooth) valume lwoering when in vehicles. also with ace, if you have hearing/earplugs enabled, you can turn the earplug volume to 100% or near enough and it will still slightly deafen sound sources that are louder then others. another ace-fix is wearing heli.jet pilot helmets act as an extra set of earplugs to further the effect.

or dont fly in 3rd person.
CDN_BiggDogg 2 May, 2018 @ 6:16pm 
Originally posted by SoulTechnology:
if your using ace (might be an aceX feature) you can have adaptive (and smooth) valume lwoering when in vehicles. also with ace, if you have hearing/earplugs enabled, you can turn the earplug volume to 100% or near enough and it will still slightly deafen sound sources that are louder then others. another ace-fix is wearing heli.jet pilot helmets act as an extra set of earplugs to further the effect.

or dont fly in 3rd person.

Sorry, these aren't solutions. I don't use ACE (don't like it) and its not just flying third person but standing beside a running helo in both first and third person perspectives.

I shouldn't have to use other third party mods or have to limit my options in game!

Lord Jarhead has done a phenominal job on this sound mod but the recording levels for aircraft are just too loud. This is the only complaint I have for this mod!
Last edited by CDN_BiggDogg; 2 May, 2018 @ 6:18pm
SoulTechnology 2 May, 2018 @ 6:56pm 
i belive JSRS aimed for realism. so the fact that they appear to be as loud as they are withought blowing out headphoned and speakers is quite impressive i might add. and i personally think there solutions as most people play with ace and your suing a 3rd party mod already. (if your looking for smaller more cleintside stuff theres coundless 'mods' that are just scipts... or there are also scripts... to add just earplugs).

i egt what your saying. maybe add an 'option' to auto balance loud sounds for peasants. but as far as what the mod si and people epxect from it it works fine.
CDN_BiggDogg 3 May, 2018 @ 4:29am 
Your not getting what I'm saying. The aircraft sounds are way out of scope with the rest of the game. They're 3 times the loudness of all other in game sounds (this is not realistic). If I turn down the volume to a manageble level, all other sounds a basically muted. It's not realistic in any way and in game is not realism, it's "in game".
SoulTechnology 3 May, 2018 @ 9:38am 
have you tried mesing with stero setings? imean there are so loud i cant hear myself thing but IRL you understand jets will make you go deaf and you can barely hear someoen screaming at you if your standing under the blades of a helicopter.

as far as other sounds gunshots make me jump if i havent hear them in awhile which i say is a good effect. helicopters a kilometre away and behind a hill are jsut abit louder then wind. onl thing id have to say is explosions could be louder. they dont have that 'blast' id quite expect when they go off at close range but sound amazing further out.

but yea, could eb stero settings are messing with your interptitation. i belive when i played on 5.0 helis ma fo been abt obnoxiouse but i dont think quite ot the leevl you were speaking so it could be the case if your on 2.0/2.1... im on 7.1 now and its beutifull.
CDN_BiggDogg 3 May, 2018 @ 5:31pm 
LOL! I have two guys I don't even know responded to this plus the 15 guys I play with on a regular basis that all have different set ups that all agree that the it's too loud.

It's the mod and only for aircraft!
SoulTechnology 3 May, 2018 @ 6:04pm 
- average jet at full throttle at 25 mt: 150decibled: will rupture a human eardrum.

im not disagreeing that they are louder then eveyrhting else. im just saying that my interpritation is JSRS is going for realism and obnoxiously loud is realistic for these things.

since your apposed to using ACE id recocmend just not suing 3rd person. or if you have regular pilots that always use 3rd person then they should be fine always having there volume lower to compensate. as i already mentioned, there are scipted version (not mods, or only required to be loaded by the server) versions of earplugs you could use to temporarily lower volume whyll in a vehicle and raise it when out. for all i know there may also be a more advanced scripted version available that acts like the ACE earplugs and lowers louder sounds more then quieter ones.
CDN_BiggDogg 3 May, 2018 @ 6:26pm 
Or the volume could be lowered to a reasonable level. I don't know why people think louder is better. It almost never is. Sound clarity/quality is better and that's what JSRS excels at. Making sound like what it suppose to sound like not making it sound like one is parked in the room with you! Just because one would deafen you in real life doesn't mean it should in a game. That's ridiculous!
SoulTechnology 3 May, 2018 @ 6:50pm 
not really dude. i knwo you say youg ot so many people but so do i and we just deal with it. its what the mods meant for we find and we just handle it. it adds to our imersion if anything which makes the game more fun for us. espeshally with TFARs direct chat and toggling of wisper/talking/yelling. and again ace. i know you said its rediculouse ot need 3rd party content but isnt this mod 3d party content?

idk, there was a JSRS light mod once befor but that was aimed at smaller file sicne since JSRS used to be 40gb of uncompressed audio. maybe instead of ruinign the mod for some so others can be happy, maybe request a new 'JSRS Lite' intended for more level audio instead of immersive audio?
Mr.Frost 4 May, 2018 @ 2:07am 
We all use Cyprus Push-to-Hear mod. Works wonderfully.
CDN_BiggDogg 4 May, 2018 @ 6:05am 
Turning the volume down on some of the sounds doesn't ruin anything. It breaks the immersion for us because it's unrealistically loud in the game. Explosions are half as loud, tank cannon blasts are half as loud.
I shouldn't have to apply any other mod because the sounds are too loud in an other mod no matter how good the mods are.
My point is the sounds, compared to other sounds in game, are too loud and that breaks immersion! A helicopter shouldn't be louder than a tank blast by 300%. If you can deal with it being louder than you can deal with it being quieter.
You keep talking about it being realistic but it's not currently when compared to the rest of the sounds in-game!
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SoulTechnology 4 May, 2018 @ 6:32am 
theres another thread saying explosions are not loud enough. and theres your sayign helis are too loud. i could nitpick on you saying its unrelaistic after just shoooting me down when i said being too loud is realistic. or i could just say then ask for a diffferent version of the mod as alloit of people enjoy how the mod is meant to be now.

i only suggest this as ive seen things ruined in the past becouse one person sees things one way and the majority that see the other are happy and dont mention anything. i fulyl see your point of view, and whyll i dont personally agree i undestand where your coming from. hence. for the 3rd time now, maybe id be a good idea for the mod dev to bring back 'JSRS Lite' as a mroe gampleay focused soundmod as apposed ot immersive realistic sound mod that this is now.
CDN_BiggDogg 4 May, 2018 @ 7:29am 
I don't claim to speak for the majority, only the group I play with. Obviously it's not just us that thinks this as a couple others have spoken up as well.
I'm asking to have the sounds nominalized (with respect to the type of sound) so that one particular sound isn't obnoxiously louder than the others. I'm not asking that aircraft sounds be as quiet as footsteps, I'm saying at a fixed volume level I should be able to hear someone walk past me and (not at the same time but) still be able to stand beside a helicopter with out destroying my speakers!
The difference here is that if it was nominalized and you want louder sounds then you can crank up your volume and all the sounds are louder, heli's, explosions etc. to your desired level but when the sound levels are so far out of whack you can hardly hear some sounds while others blow out your speakers.
I'm asking for balance, I'm not trying to ruin anything for anyone and I certainly don't expect the mod maker to maintain multiple mods. If he decides to do it then great, if not then we will likely stop using this mod (although we would prefer to keep using it).
Last edited by CDN_BiggDogg; 4 May, 2018 @ 7:37am
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