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5X - The Ultimate Balance Mod
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FallzQuick 30 Dec, 2020 @ 9:37pm
Difficulty Settings and Outcomes
I was wondering what if any 5X did with difficulty settings. Also what are the vanilla vs 5x settings?

If 5X does not change does anyone know where to look?

I also have UCP block
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Spud Dastardly  [developer] 31 Dec, 2020 @ 12:11am 
5X adds two new difficulty levels above extreme that give the AI a +75% or +100% bonus (extreme gives them +50%). As long as you are using UCP and 5XCPC, that's all it does. If you were not using UCP for some reason it would also set a couple of the difficulty bonuses that don't work right to 0.
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Sensei  [developer] 31 Dec, 2020 @ 5:09am 
With 5X the ais get a +X% bonus on pretty much everything, vanilla only boosts a few values and not all by the same number, if i remember correctly
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FallzQuick 31 Dec, 2020 @ 2:32pm 
What are those bonuses?

I just got the game recently and have Won on Normal, and Twice on Hard, and now going for Very Hard. Just trying to figure out what I am up against. Is it pure production/Food/Research??? Or do they also get Combat, pop growth, ship speed, harder trading, ect. ect.

Any and all help is appreciated. I've found the Wiki lacking, plus Mod tinkering makes it a little hard to figure out
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Sensei  [developer] 31 Dec, 2020 @ 2:33pm 
with 5x or without?
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FallzQuick 31 Dec, 2020 @ 10:44pm 
5X
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Spud Dastardly  [developer] 1 Jan, 2021 @ 7:19am 
Vanilla (multiply by 100 for percentage):
- key: difficulty_very_easy name: DIFFICULTY_VERY_EASY research_multiplier_bonus: -0.3 credits_multiplier_bonus: -0.3 command_points_multiplier_bonus: -0.3 colony_production_multiplier_bonus: -0.3 food_production_multiplier_bonus: -0.3 - key: difficulty_easy name: DIFFICULTY_EASY research_multiplier_bonus: -0.1 credits_multiplier_bonus: -0.1 command_points_multiplier_bonus: -0.1 colony_production_multiplier_bonus: -0.1 food_production_multiplier_bonus: -0.1 - key: difficulty_average name: DIFFICULTY_AVERAGE research_multiplier_bonus: 0 credits_multiplier_bonus: 0 command_points_multiplier_bonus: 0 colony_production_multiplier_bonus: 0 food_production_multiplier_bonus: 0 isDefault: true - key: difficulty_hard name: DIFFICULTY_HARD research_multiplier_bonus: 0.1 credits_multiplier_bonus: 0.1 command_points_multiplier_bonus: 0.1 colony_production_multiplier_bonus: 0.1 food_production_multiplier_bonus: 0.1 unlocksHard: true - key: difficulty_very_hard name: DIFFICULTY_VERY_HARD research_multiplier_bonus: 0.25 credits_multiplier_bonus: 0.25 command_points_multiplier_bonus: 0.25 colony_production_multiplier_bonus: 0.25 food_production_multiplier_bonus: 0.25 unlocksHard: true - key: difficulty_extreme name: DIFFICULTY_EXTREME research_multiplier_bonus: 0.5 credits_multiplier_bonus: 0.5 command_points_multiplier_bonus: 0.5 colony_production_multiplier_bonus: 0.5 food_production_multiplier_bonus: 0.5 unlocksHard: true
5X:
- key: difficulty_hard name: DIFFICULTY_HARD research_multiplier_bonus: 0.1 credits_multiplier_bonus: 0 command_points_multiplier_bonus: 0.125 colony_production_multiplier_bonus: 0.15 food_production_multiplier_bonus: 0.125 unlocksHard: true - key: difficulty_very_hard name: DIFFICULTY_VERY_HARD research_multiplier_bonus: 0.2 credits_multiplier_bonus: 0 command_points_multiplier_bonus: 0.25 colony_production_multiplier_bonus: 0.3 food_production_multiplier_bonus: 0.25 unlocksHard: true - key: difficulty_extreme name: DIFFICULTY_EXTREME research_multiplier_bonus: 0.4 credits_multiplier_bonus: 0 command_points_multiplier_bonus: 0.375 colony_production_multiplier_bonus: 0.6 food_production_multiplier_bonus: 0.375 unlocksHard: true - key: difficulty_insane name: DIFFICULTY_INSANE research_multiplier_bonus: 0.6 credits_multiplier_bonus: 0 command_points_multiplier_bonus: 0.425 colony_production_multiplier_bonus: 0.9 food_production_multiplier_bonus: 0.425 unlocksHard: true - key: difficulty_impossible name: DIFFICULTY_IMPOSSIBLE research_multiplier_bonus: 0.8 credits_multiplier_bonus: 0 command_points_multiplier_bonus: 0.5 colony_production_multiplier_bonus: 1.2 food_production_multiplier_bonus: 0.5 unlocksHard: true
5XCPC:
- key: difficulty_hard name: DIFFICULTY_HARD research_multiplier_bonus: 0.1 credits_multiplier_bonus: 0.1 command_points_multiplier_bonus: 0.1 colony_production_multiplier_bonus: 0.1 food_production_multiplier_bonus: 0.1 unlocksHard: true - key: difficulty_very_hard name: DIFFICULTY_VERY_HARD research_multiplier_bonus: 0.25 credits_multiplier_bonus: 0.25 command_points_multiplier_bonus: 0.25 colony_production_multiplier_bonus: 0.25 food_production_multiplier_bonus: 0.25 unlocksHard: true - key: difficulty_extreme name: DIFFICULTY_EXTREME research_multiplier_bonus: 0.5 credits_multiplier_bonus: 0.5 command_points_multiplier_bonus: 0.5 colony_production_multiplier_bonus: 0.5 food_production_multiplier_bonus: 0.5 unlocksHard: true - key: difficulty_insane name: DIFFICULTY_INSANE research_multiplier_bonus: 0.75 credits_multiplier_bonus: 0.75 command_points_multiplier_bonus: 0.75 colony_production_multiplier_bonus: 0.75 food_production_multiplier_bonus: 0.75 unlocksHard: true - key: difficulty_impossible name: DIFFICULTY_IMPOSSIBLE research_multiplier_bonus: 1 credits_multiplier_bonus: 1 command_points_multiplier_bonus: 1 colony_production_multiplier_bonus: 1 food_production_multiplier_bonus: 1 unlocksHard: true
Last edited by Spud Dastardly; 1 Jan, 2021 @ 8:27am
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FallzQuick 1 Jan, 2021 @ 7:02pm 
Thanks!. I'm starting to landslide win my Very Hard in 5XCPC. looks like after this when I try Insane it will get a little more out of hand.

Do you know if these are going to stay or if you plan to tinker with them further?
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Spud Dastardly  [developer] 1 Jan, 2021 @ 9:10pm 
I don't currently have any plans to change these values. If someone points out a good reason for changing them, I'd be open to it.
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