As the seasons change every turn your income will vary. Typically you make more in Spring/Summer than in winter/fall

Originally posted by Dark Apollo:

As the seasons change every turn your income will vary. Typically you make more in Spring/Summer than in winter/fall

Thanks for your reply, haven’t played DEI in a while but I do understand that seasonal effects change income amount, my question when this was posted was not about that but about income being completely inaccurate to what it says you should make. That’s why I gave income ranges (900-1200), to represent what I make (or what I should be making according to the finance panel) on average throughout the year. But fwiw I still never made sense of income in dei.

I have noticed some inconsistencies too with income, what I believe may be happening is that the information panels aren't updating during YOUR turn when you make changes. Sometimes after I made changes income doesnt change, but then I select a (random) general or a settlement etc and then suddenly the income numbers change. If I hadn't selected that general or settlement the info wouldnt have updated. Im fairly confident that the actual calculations and numbers behind it are done correctly though, which Im assuming could be the reason you only notice the inconsistency in the next turn.

Originally posted by DoktorFar:

I have noticed some inconsistencies too with income, what I believe may be happening is that the information panels aren't updating during YOUR turn when you make changes. Sometimes after I made changes income doesnt change, but then I select a (random) general or a settlement etc and then suddenly the income numbers change. If I hadn't selected that general or settlement the info wouldnt have updated. Im fairly confident that the actual calculations and numbers behind it are done correctly though, which Im assuming could be the reason you only notice the inconsistency in the next turn.

I believe I know what you're talking about, and this is common across multiple mods (might even be in Vanilla but I wouldn't know at this point). The problem isn't just the UI not updating, it's that it's just inaccurate whether at the start or the end of a turn, consistently, over the course of the game. Moreover, the finance panel which should be a more detailed look at your economic situation is also inaccurate.

To be clear, the first screenshot above shows in Winter an expected income of 744, while my treasury sits at 2281
The next screenshot shows the next turn, Spring, with an expected income of 975, and my treasury sitting at 2283
So where did the other 742 of my expected income go between winter and spring? Why did I only gain 2 income? The detailed breakdown of the finance panel only shows improvement in my income situation, but it's not actually reflected in my income itself.

Obviously income fluctuates throughout the year, but that's not something I consider an inconsistency as it's just seasonal effects. What I'm talking about is the projections themselves being off by an inordinate amount, with no indication as to why or what's causing it. If the projections say you should be profiting consistently throughout the year, even by a variable margin, but you are actually losing money throughout the year without doing any construction or recruitment, and with no negative province effects, and without being raided or blockaded etc, well then it becomes rather hard to play the game and plan a solvent economy when you have no idea why your economy is tanking (it says it shouldn't be after all).

Anyway, I'd like to still play this mod but I just found it very difficult to make sense of the numbers, and I don't see anything in the recent updates about this issue (sry if I've missed something), so I just haven't come back to it. But if anyone does know what the deal is or can address the actual issue and help me to work around it I'd love to come back to the mod. Until then though this is a bit of a deal breaker for me as it's just too much of a hassle to use guesswork to figure how my economy is going to function.

Best advice I can give is to try and click on generals and settlements, raise tax up and down, to provoke the info panels into updating.

For me the differences in income display from this issue is never very significant, hundreds of gold at most, so it wasnt really something I felt mattered.

Well, I appreciate you trying to help, but as I said that's not a problem I'm having, just as the other person who posted, the response really doesn't address the issue I'm posting about. It would be great to get a devs opinion as it really seems like some kind of a bug, but as this post is several months old already my hopes aren't that high.

Thanks anyway for the well meaning response, I don't mean to be rude or overly dismissive as I know you're trying to help, but I just don't know how to describe any clearer that the issue I'm talking about is not a panel being slow to update (and then eventually becoming accurate), but rather all economic panels being "wrong" at all states of the game.

I see, well if that is something consistent for you between all your games, then it most certainly sounds like either a bug or maybe mod conflict or installation issue. Trying the generic options of unsubbing, clearing out the data folder, then verifying Steam files, then resubbing again. Other than that I hope you get someone who can help with the issue.