Dota 2
Epic Boss Fight (Discontinued)
Do Viper's skills works with spell amps?
as the title says.
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Tomrock 1 Jul, 2016 @ 12:11am 
yes
Raukatau 1 Jul, 2016 @ 12:20am 
Yes, he recive bonus from lens and NOT from Int to spell damage. You can check it in solo game with cheats, open log and see how much dmg your first spell deal with and without dagon (8000 int), then check it with lens. So mage's items is your choice, there even special item for heros like Viper - Scythe of Decoy (crits+remove magic resistance+lightnings with hit).

Upd. logs is a lie. I check it, and when i with dagon attack log says i "deal 717 dmg with poison attack", in reality it deal 120. Lens is working fine. So int does not increase your spell damage, lens does.
Last edited by Raukatau; 1 Jul, 2016 @ 12:57am
Originally posted by Raukatau:
Yes, he recive bonus from lens and NOT from Int to spell damage. You can check it in solo game with cheats, open log and see how much dmg your first spell deal with and without dagon (8000 int), then check it with lens. So mage's items is your choice, there even special item for heros like Viper - Scythe of Decoy (crits+remove magic resistance+lightnings with hit).

Upd. logs is a lie. I check it, and when i with dagon attack log says i "deal 717 dmg with poison attack", in reality it deal 120. Lens is working fine. So int does not increase your spell damage, lens does.

so i can only stick with lens upgrades for poison dmgs and not int? when i got lens on R1 the dmg shown on creeps is only 120(level 1 poison), is this just a bug?
JDON my soul 1 Jul, 2016 @ 2:47am 
Originally posted by Raukatau:
Yes, he recive bonus from lens and NOT from Int to spell damage. You can check it in solo game with cheats, open log and see how much dmg your first spell deal with and without dagon (8000 int), then check it with lens. So mage's items is your choice, there even special item for heros like Viper - Scythe of Decoy (crits+remove magic resistance+lightnings with hit).

Upd. logs is a lie. I check it, and when i with dagon attack log says i "deal 717 dmg with poison attack", in reality it deal 120. Lens is working fine. So int does not increase your spell damage, lens does.
hey, i want to test the map, how to play it with cheats on?
Raukatau 1 Jul, 2016 @ 4:06am 
Originally posted by Yui A Best:
hey, i want to test the map, how to play it with cheats on?
Press create lobby, enter password, now you can select cheats on.


Originally posted by Kameko™:

so i can only stick with lens upgrades for poison dmgs and not int? when i got lens on R1 the dmg shown on creeps is only 120(level 1 poison), is this just a bug?

Yes, with last lens (+300% spell dmg) one hit with poison attack lvl 1: creep hp on round 2 (kobolds with magic resistance 0%) dropped by ~1000 ( 120 (base spell dmg)+360 (300% from lens) dmg every second for 2 seconds = 960 dmg.
Last edited by Raukatau; 1 Jul, 2016 @ 4:06am
dopamine hunter 1 Jul, 2016 @ 6:08am 
the combat log is wrong about the damage numbers; they're before the filters
Originally posted by houthakker:
the combat log is wrong about the damage numbers; they're before the filters

so only the lens works on DoT skills?
dopamine hunter 1 Jul, 2016 @ 6:47am 
no it works fully
Originally posted by houthakker:
no it works fully

even the int spell amp works on viper/huskar? im quite confused now @.@
JDON my soul 1 Jul, 2016 @ 8:24am 
Originally posted by Kameko™:
Originally posted by houthakker:
no it works fully

even the int spell amp works on viper/huskar? im quite confused now @.@
int doesn't amp anything, any spell dmg number in the log is wrong because the dev turn the ampilfy off(filter?)
Last edited by JDON my soul; 1 Jul, 2016 @ 8:25am
dopamine hunter 1 Jul, 2016 @ 8:30am 
Originally posted by Kameko™:
Originally posted by houthakker:
no it works fully

even the int spell amp works on viper/huskar? im quite confused now @.@
no, only pure spell damage works (no int); but it is working 100%; the wrong numbers are because int scaling is still happening in theory but the game filters the excess damage, however th combat log shows the pre-filtered damage
Originally posted by Yui A Best:
Originally posted by Kameko™:

even the int spell amp works on viper/huskar? im quite confused now @.@
int doesn't amp anything, any spell dmg number in the log is wrong because the dev turn the ampilfy off(filter?)

i used mages and int i think gave a huge boost on magic dmg... i tried without lens and still got huge dmg from int alone.

so in viper's case only lens work on poison right?
dopamine hunter 1 Jul, 2016 @ 11:25am 
lens works on everything viper has
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