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Achtung tung tung sahur 2016 年 6 月 30 日 下午 11:33
Do Viper's skills works with spell amps?
as the title says.
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Tomrock 2016 年 7 月 1 日 上午 12:11 
yes
Raukatau 2016 年 7 月 1 日 上午 12:20 
Yes, he recive bonus from lens and NOT from Int to spell damage. You can check it in solo game with cheats, open log and see how much dmg your first spell deal with and without dagon (8000 int), then check it with lens. So mage's items is your choice, there even special item for heros like Viper - Scythe of Decoy (crits+remove magic resistance+lightnings with hit).

Upd. logs is a lie. I check it, and when i with dagon attack log says i "deal 717 dmg with poison attack", in reality it deal 120. Lens is working fine. So int does not increase your spell damage, lens does.
最後修改者:Raukatau; 2016 年 7 月 1 日 上午 12:57
Achtung tung tung sahur 2016 年 7 月 1 日 上午 2:19 
引用自 Raukatau
Yes, he recive bonus from lens and NOT from Int to spell damage. You can check it in solo game with cheats, open log and see how much dmg your first spell deal with and without dagon (8000 int), then check it with lens. So mage's items is your choice, there even special item for heros like Viper - Scythe of Decoy (crits+remove magic resistance+lightnings with hit).

Upd. logs is a lie. I check it, and when i with dagon attack log says i "deal 717 dmg with poison attack", in reality it deal 120. Lens is working fine. So int does not increase your spell damage, lens does.

so i can only stick with lens upgrades for poison dmgs and not int? when i got lens on R1 the dmg shown on creeps is only 120(level 1 poison), is this just a bug?
JDON my soul 2016 年 7 月 1 日 上午 2:47 
引用自 Raukatau
Yes, he recive bonus from lens and NOT from Int to spell damage. You can check it in solo game with cheats, open log and see how much dmg your first spell deal with and without dagon (8000 int), then check it with lens. So mage's items is your choice, there even special item for heros like Viper - Scythe of Decoy (crits+remove magic resistance+lightnings with hit).

Upd. logs is a lie. I check it, and when i with dagon attack log says i "deal 717 dmg with poison attack", in reality it deal 120. Lens is working fine. So int does not increase your spell damage, lens does.
hey, i want to test the map, how to play it with cheats on?
Raukatau 2016 年 7 月 1 日 上午 4:06 
引用自 Yui A Best
hey, i want to test the map, how to play it with cheats on?
Press create lobby, enter password, now you can select cheats on.


引用自 Kameko™

so i can only stick with lens upgrades for poison dmgs and not int? when i got lens on R1 the dmg shown on creeps is only 120(level 1 poison), is this just a bug?

Yes, with last lens (+300% spell dmg) one hit with poison attack lvl 1: creep hp on round 2 (kobolds with magic resistance 0%) dropped by ~1000 ( 120 (base spell dmg)+360 (300% from lens) dmg every second for 2 seconds = 960 dmg.
最後修改者:Raukatau; 2016 年 7 月 1 日 上午 4:06
dopamine hunter 2016 年 7 月 1 日 上午 6:08 
the combat log is wrong about the damage numbers; they're before the filters
Achtung tung tung sahur 2016 年 7 月 1 日 上午 6:37 
引用自 houthakker
the combat log is wrong about the damage numbers; they're before the filters

so only the lens works on DoT skills?
dopamine hunter 2016 年 7 月 1 日 上午 6:47 
no it works fully
Achtung tung tung sahur 2016 年 7 月 1 日 上午 8:20 
引用自 houthakker
no it works fully

even the int spell amp works on viper/huskar? im quite confused now @.@
JDON my soul 2016 年 7 月 1 日 上午 8:24 
引用自 Kameko™
引用自 houthakker
no it works fully

even the int spell amp works on viper/huskar? im quite confused now @.@
int doesn't amp anything, any spell dmg number in the log is wrong because the dev turn the ampilfy off(filter?)
最後修改者:JDON my soul; 2016 年 7 月 1 日 上午 8:25
dopamine hunter 2016 年 7 月 1 日 上午 8:30 
引用自 Kameko™
引用自 houthakker
no it works fully

even the int spell amp works on viper/huskar? im quite confused now @.@
no, only pure spell damage works (no int); but it is working 100%; the wrong numbers are because int scaling is still happening in theory but the game filters the excess damage, however th combat log shows the pre-filtered damage
Achtung tung tung sahur 2016 年 7 月 1 日 上午 11:22 
引用自 Yui A Best
引用自 Kameko™

even the int spell amp works on viper/huskar? im quite confused now @.@
int doesn't amp anything, any spell dmg number in the log is wrong because the dev turn the ampilfy off(filter?)

i used mages and int i think gave a huge boost on magic dmg... i tried without lens and still got huge dmg from int alone.

so in viper's case only lens work on poison right?
dopamine hunter 2016 年 7 月 1 日 上午 11:25 
lens works on everything viper has
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