I found this mission also unreasonable difficult on my Legend run, for how early it was available. If i would have played Ironman/Honestman and not Bronzeman i would have lost there, more than one time. ;)

Originally posted by ADVENT Avenger:

Please disable reinforcements on this map or stretch them across rounds. It's thoroughly an unpleasant experience to have a (or many) fresh fully decked out Jericho soldier(s) added on top of what seems to be an already full map full of elites. It only gets worse if you do the mission much later in the game.

It's one reinforcement per turn, but might take a look a it. What difficulty are you playing on?

The one above the lowest one. Veteran?
I'm not playing at a very high difficulty, i think it should scale more. Keep the existing parameters for higher difficulties and tone down the lower ones? Just an idea.

Originally posted by ADVENT Avenger:

The one above the lowest one. Veteran?
I'm not playing at a very high difficulty, i think it should scale more. Keep the existing parameters for higher difficulties and tone down the lower ones? Just an idea.

It's the same mission on all difficulties, only scaling 1) deployment points (roughly how many enemies appear and their equipment) (also in Vanilla), and 2) rank and stats of humanoid enemies (only TFTV). So for reference, on Jan 30, on Legend, enemy has about 1450 Deployment Points, which can translate to 9 troopers. On the same day, on Veteran it's 900 DP, so 5-6 enemies. And there is an additional enemy coming as reinforcement every turn.

I can reduce Deployment Points on all or some difficulties. When did you attempt this mission and how many enemies were you facing?

Reduce it for the 2 lowest difficulites IMHO.

I believe I had as many units on map as I had units so it was 6 to 6 but then you get 1 every round and what youre saying is that it stops after 9? That's pretty intense for the lower difficulties. Those are good enemies they're not basic arthrons with no ranged attacks.

Also I know where Helena is, if you have anyone just roaming around not spoiled they're going to feel punished a lot for not going optimally (Jetpack -> Top -> Save -> Out).

The difficulties in TFTV are: Story Mode, Rookie, Veteran, Hero, Legend, Etermes.
If you are indeed playing on Veteran (you should see the difficulty in the load game window or you can check TFTV.log) your proposal “for the 2 lowest difficulties“ would not have helped you.
Also very interesting is: on which date did you try the mission? Why have you brought only 6 soldiers instead of 8 soldiers (in 2 airplanes)?
6 vs initial 6 sounds fair. If you kill 1 per round the reinforcements don’t make it unfair.

Sorry i didnt count Story Mode. Difficulty 3.

You dont get 8 people early on, or I have -2 to deploy or you I have people healing. Not bringing the absolute best team with the absolute maximum amount of soldiers shouldnt be a death sentence (for this particular mission).

I just think overall it should be less difficult on the lower end, keep Hero+ just as is. That is about it for my opinion, I have no idea if people agree or if I'm fringe learn to play territory.

Originally posted by ADVENT Avenger:

Also I know where Helena is, if you have anyone just roaming around not spoiled they're going to feel punished a lot for not going optimally (Jetpack -> Top -> Save -> Out).

She can spawn in one of several places (3, IIRC), so that jet jump might land you in hot water :)

Anyway, thanks for the feedback, we will take a look at it and maybe reduce deployment points on Veteran and lower.

I have never to date seen her not on the absolute farthest rooftop tile in that cell.

Thanks for listening, keep up the good work.

fyi, in the release just now

-Changes
+Lowered deployment points for enemies in Saving Helena on Veteran and lower.

Just saw that thanks