Stellaris

Stellaris

Star Trek: New Civilisations
Free Warp and AI
I'm just starting out with this mod, really enjoy it so far. I'm wondering do you guys enjoy playing with Free Warp on or off? I really like the idea of free warp lore wise and even gameplay wise, my only issue I ran into in my first game was that the free warp combined with very slow sublight/warp speed of this mod created a situation where I was chasing AI ships all over the place much more than in normal Stellaris.

I know the AI is kinda garbage in Stellaris anyway so there probably isn't much that could be done about it in the mod, the only way the game manages to increase difficulty is by nerfing the player/buffing the AI resource generation and other things, not because the AI is ever any smarter (that is just my impression at least).

What happened in my game was I entered a defensive pact with some little trading empire, I forget the name (not the bug looking people). In any case they only had 1 system and I had several defensive pacts with other nations so I thought I was safe. What happened was :) The romulans declared war on the tiny empire, just bringing me into war with them. The Breen also joined through I assume some alliance or war invitation from the Romulans. My defensive partners remained neutral though, because I was pulled into the war from a 3rd party empire to them. Thus I was fighting a 2 front war against the Romulans and the Breen. Even though my ships were superior and I won many battles, they would instantly overtake any planets basically even though they had no army transports and I had strongholds on every planet for crew.

Fine, whatever. My biggest problem was with how FAST they would conquer any planet without any dropships and they would free warp in god knows what direction afterwards to repeat the task, it would take sometimes 3 systems for my fleet to catch them even though they were just 1 system behind. I GUESS I could have fought better by spamming pause and trying to determine where they were headed and trying to route them off a different way, but that would basically result in 2-3 systems or more getting conquered while I cut them off anyway. The game says my "tech is superior to theirs" pretty vague but I had high impulse drives and singularity drives, I think I should have been faster than them and probably was. It's just once you enter a warp lane you are stuck there travelling, often I would enter the lane and they would change direction or go where I just was and I was stuck waiting to arrive before issuing another order.

TLDR: Do you guys use Free Warp or no and if so do you not get tired of chasing the AI all over due to slow ship speed? I'd prefer to use free warp but it doesn't seem worth the hassle based on my first experience.
Last edited by angelsenvy228; 8 Nov, 2022 @ 7:25pm
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angelsenvy228 8 Nov, 2022 @ 8:29pm 
Idk what's worse, I tried starting 2 games with warp lane density 2.5x ish and free warp off, both times I ended up completely blocked in by vulcan tellar and andoral due to warp lanes. Like there were maybe 10 systems tops I could claim without detaching my empire and going around them. I wish they didn't spawn like right around you. Maybe it is RNG I never had empires so close in my first couple saves. I feel like I need free warp on just to be able to play around them at the start (and I wasn't too slow, I was using console commands to cheat and get resources so I was expanding WAY faster than any AI could just to test it) but I was still locked in basically from their spawn points and the way hyperlanes generated. I guess I will try another free warp game and hopefully I can get ships so fast and upgraded they can just run down any AI shenanigans. This is also on medium galaxy with the minimum AI empires which is 14 for some reason. When I first played this mod the AI empires were set at 6, but that must have been a stored setting from regular stellaris because you cannot decrease they AI empires below 14 on that map size.
angelsenvy228 8 Nov, 2022 @ 8:30pm 
At least with free warp you can play the game
Scrambles  [developer] 9 Nov, 2022 @ 8:57am 
I do not play with free warp for the reasons you have cited. I am glad the option is there for people who want to emulate a more Trek environment, but I do not think Stellaris works very well as an experience without hyperlane geography.

It depends on who you're playing as but with hyperlanes, it is just the same as normal Stellaris - you will eventually have to take territory from the AI if you want to continue expanding forever. In the current version, Stellaris is the Game of Vassals... I suggest just subjugating everyone once you have conquered enough systems to maintain your war machine. If you are going for the United Federation of Planets, you do not need to rush to take any systems... you will end up owning them all later anyway! Just grab the few around you with the best planets and then start assimilating everyone. Resistance is futile.
angelsenvy228 11 Nov, 2022 @ 2:32pm 
Thanks! I ended up sticking with a game with Free Warp off and warplane density at the highest setting that wasn't "full", like 2.75x or something, it definitely seems like the best balance to me. Once I got upgraded Deflector Attenuators it also helped a lot with chasing ships down. And yes I see what you mean I did take over everyone around me pretty quickly, it takes a little set up with getting the diplomacy tree first helping a lot, but eventually I was able to stack like 6 envoys on the shaky alliance I roped the romulans into and before they knew it they were part of the UFP :P

Thanks for helping with several of my newbie questions directly, this overhaul you made is truly awesome I can tell you put your heart into the project!
Last edited by angelsenvy228; 11 Nov, 2022 @ 2:33pm
Wilhelm 26 Mar, 2023 @ 9:53am 
Originally posted by Scrambles:
I do not play with free warp for the reasons you have cited. I am glad the option is there for people who want to emulate a more Trek environment, but I do not think Stellaris works very well as an experience without hyperlane geography.

It depends on who you're playing as but with hyperlanes, it is just the same as normal Stellaris - you will eventually have to take territory from the AI if you want to continue expanding forever. In the current version, Stellaris is the Game of Vassals... I suggest just subjugating everyone once you have conquered enough systems to maintain your war machine. If you are going for the United Federation of Planets, you do not need to rush to take any systems... you will end up owning them all later anyway! Just grab the few around you with the best planets and then start assimilating everyone. Resistance is futile.

what hyperlane density do you suggest?
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