Not sure if you're screwed or not, but the item you get when you hand in a red gem is the
Ratlington Souvenir - looks like the Orb of Vilson? from the base game - so the ratlington greeter doesn't accept a red gem anymore?

Are you using the latest version of the mod? I thought I read somewhere that you can hand the red gem later on in the latest version..but NOT sure at all about that..haven't tried myself
For future, I recommend giving only a red gem

Can you spawn the item with console or something?

There are a few places where you can get "hard locked" like you mention above. Here's a few I'm aware of:

- Give Red Gem to Enter Ratlington

Need:
- 25 torches at the same time at one point
- 3 Poison potions at the same time at one point
- 1 Gold key at end (for last secret in Livingrock)
- 1 [Orb thing] near end for use with "Demiurge"
- a number of Red Gems, particularly for crafting specific items that allow you to get the "full" ending (see Formulas for high end items)

I'm updating the guide I wrote currently with the last secrets I was missing. It might be helpful. (See "The Guardians" guide.)

Originally posted by zramble:

Not sure if you're screwed or not, but the item you get when you hand in a red gem is the
Ratlington Souvenir - looks like the Orb of Vilson? from the base game - so the ratlington greeter doesn't accept a red gem anymore?

Are you using the latest version of the mod? I thought I read somewhere that you can hand the red gem later on in the latest version..but NOT sure at all about that..haven't tried myself
For future, I recommend giving only a red gem

Can you spawn the item with console or something?

Unless some other trigger enables me to hand in a red gem later, no. I'm currently the champion and he won't take it.

Originally posted by pecan:

There are a few places where you can get "hard locked" like you mention above. Here's a few I'm aware of:

- Give Red Gem to Enter Ratlington

Need:
- 25 torches at the same time at one point
- 3 Poison potions at the same time at one point
- 1 Gold key at end (for last secret in Livingrock)
- 1 [Orb thing] near end for use with "Demiurge"
- a number of Red Gems, particularly for crafting specific items that allow you to get the "full" ending (see Formulas for high end items)

I'm updating the guide I wrote currently with the last secrets I was missing. It might be helpful. (See "The Guardians" guide.)

I heard about the torch thing, and the rest are things i'd expect, though by poison potions do you mean poignant potions, or antivenoms?

Poignant potions - I typically trade them for food in Ratlington.

I know this thread is kinda old, but no you cannot get the Ratlington Souvernir (the item you trade to Magnus) IF you already gave the guard at the entrance to Ratlington a gem other than a red gem. However, if you do need the item purely for secret hunting or just for completionist sake you can spawn it in the console. Just follow a guide online on how to enable the console, it's really easy, then make sure you're facing somewhere with an empty space in front of you and once you've entered your console key (usually ~) then type this command and press enter:

spawn("scope")