+420% damage

uh, and how to balance it, hmmm

no random critical hits

perfect now

i agree with the first stats proposed

Pro :

+ 25% damage
+ 10% accuracy
+ Hold on right-click to fire an explosive shot that deal damage on an area

= Consume 50 metal each time used and 3 bullet

Cons :

- 50% fire rate
- 50% magazine size

+30% Accuracy
Press and hold alt-fire for 2 seconds and shoots 50% of the clip and reveal cloaked spies, and they take mini-crits for 3 seconds

-30% Damage
-25% Clip size
10% Slower firing speed

I was thinking this:

+Pros
+when Impact, it will release a small explosion and the damage will be around 18 and near the person who is near the impact will recieve 5% of damage
+when critted (With the kritzkriege, not capping the intel and getting free crits) the gun will have 2x stats on damage and only use metal for ammo instead

-Cons
-slow firing speed, like PBPP (Pretty Boy's Pocket Pistol)
-can hold around 7 shots
-when used with the kritzkriege, you cannot use the Dispenser or get ammo packs or build any buildings

Originally posted by {ViP} V-Mech:

Here are possible stats for the weapon
Pros:
15% damage
Explodes on impact
Hold down for a bigger BOOM!!!!
Cons:
5 bullet mag
-10% fire rate
bullet blows up if hold down to long

great idea! but i think maybe tweak it a bit like this:
+25% damage
+ charge up for bigger explosion and up to 75% damage boost

-25% fire rate
-only 33 bullets
-90% max secondary ammo (aka only ten reserve shots)

it's deadlyer, but also a bit more difficult to use to compensate.

-Pros
.projectile cannot be defflected (exept for Short Circuit)
.+25 metal on wearer
-Pro Alt-Fire
.Charges up a shot draining spy's cloak batery by 70%
.Mini-Crits disguised spies
.Forces spy to undisguise

-Cons
.uses metal for ammo (3 metal per shot)
.if an enemy short curcuits the projectile, the enemy earns 66% of the metal that was spent on firing the shot
-Con Alt Fire
.Uses 30 metal for charged shot

Other
-Projectile (same speed as Direct Hit)

+20% damage
+Can grab buildings at long distances for 125 metal
+10% speed increase on wearer
-30% small clip size
-Marked for death whenever you try to move buildings
-10% slower switching speed on wearer

+50% more metal
+No reload necessary
-Per shot: -3 metal
-Uses metal for ammo

Originally posted by DD Crusader:

Here are possible stats for the weapon
Pros:
15% damage
Explodes on impact
Hold down for a bigger BOOM!!!!
Cons:
5 bullet mag
-10% fire rate
bullet blows up if hold down to long

these are pretty good stats

I agree with the orignal stats they seem pretty cool and honestly this gun should have came with TF2

+50% damage against spys
You get mini-crited if backstabbed
-50% damage against every other class

Originally posted by Green Dorito:

+50% damage against spys
You get mini-crited if backstabbed
-50% damage against every other class

backstabs instanly kill all classes anyway so ...

Originally posted by The Hunter:

Here are possible stats for the weapon
Pros:
15% damage
Explodes on impact
Hold down for a bigger BOOM!!!!
Cons:
5 bullet mag
-10% fire rate
bullet blows up if hold down to long

So pretty much a toned down Loose Cannon for Engie?
I'm so far in I'm balls deep!

this gun looks like one of them stun guns, so maybe it can also shoot zappers off of buildens as well.