it doesnt have a load order as it's usually expected to be used without other mods changing characters as it changes them all except recruitable characters.

what is the load order for this?

but i will add one thing. posted in the description of the mod some time ago.

What does this mod change?
MA skill added to everyone. be careful disarming your opponents.

not my issue.
issue is all yours.
and me rude? yep. because you come on here telling me i need to change my mod i made for myself to suit you.

would think that's pretty damn rude of yourself. thinking i have to change my mod just to suit your whims.

go use some other mod. since the way "I LIKE MY MOD" doesnt suit you.
bye. and don't bother me again.

@Hatsune Neko Gaming I think you should add a warning to how OP the martial arts addition is, and reference to the mod that mitigates it, its more dangerous than it says.

Many people have been pissed about it, and you've said the same rude statement. No one is forcing me, but people have no clue it is going to be this OP, then end up in the same place I am, also there is no other mix of mods more well put together than the one you've made.

I play for a challenge, I have even more mods to make the game harder ontop of my own RP rules. But the martial arts is off its tits. No idea what that post of that bafoon is rambling about, does't relate at all, he seems possessed.

then don't use the mod. no one is forcing you to.

and just because you don't find it enjoyable doesnt mean i don't.
I made it this way because i do enjoy it. this is how i like the game. with everything i added.

so don't come onto my mod page and complain about the mod i made because you don't like it.
because every mod i made, is how i like the game. it's why i nearly always play with just my mods activated.

if people find bugs, i listen to suggestions about those.
there is a discussion above of another complaining about the very same thing.
Bruh why make the game harder ♥♥♥♥♥

@Hatsune Neko Gaming Making them 2,3,4 or even 1 hit your guys behind blocks doesn't make the game harder, it just makes the mechanics broken so you avoid taking their weapons or having to carry around a bag of iron poles you give them in return, idk how you or find this enjoyable, when you probably are the person that lures enemies to towns and takes their free loot anyway, playstyles are whatever, but this martial arts addition isn't right for most people. There is no mod that removes the martial arts, if I was you I would of made it separate to the mod for peoples convinience, because no doubt this part would get the most hate. I shouldn't have to make my own mod when there is already someone as skilled as yourelf to do it, besides flooding the workshop with copied mods is disgusting, regurgitating.

because as i have mentioned before.
if i don't find it hard enough, i will adjust it to make it harder. and this made it harder.
it's also made disarming NPCs for their weapons more dangerous.

you have to remember, i made this mod for myself and my playstyle. i share it for others to enjoy as well. if you don't like it, don't use it.

or go make your own version. without directly ripping off mine.
also there are mods that patch that part out.
i just don't list them because i don't agree with the patch.

and Kenshi is not realistic. it's only based on realism. like all video games are.

had a very good 1 hour fight barely escaping then, one these bag of bones come running up, smack 3 dudes ripping their arms off, wtf how is this enjoyabe, I play for the enhanced challenge but this is like a bug.

idk why you had to add the busted martial arts, 250 damage and limbs removed, yeah no that is just plain stupid and shouldn't be a thing, its not realistic to be born with black belt martial arts skills.

it should not as it changes only NPCs and animals.
so in reality this mod is very vanilla and only caused issues when characters were removed by the Devs. which has long since been fixed.

@Hatsune Neko Gaming Yeah way she goes, this was before I quit using mods that overhaul the game, never anything good from them, across all games iv played, causes more stress and loss of save game than actual enjoyment. Surely the basic QOL mods like this one wont fck my game.

Genesis is known to cause crashes.
and after using that mod, its best to start a new game. as that mod changes way to much.

I imported my save from Genesis mod and changed the mods because my game was crashing my pc, no idea why, but after importing there is no effect from group combat, it is in top load order, im guessing Ill need to restart from scratch maybe even reinstall the game

this mod doesnt pair well with other mods that make changes to the same groups this one does.

es una lastima . pero no combina con uwe T_T siempre me termina crasheando en diferentes puntos

this one.
the others are made separately for different challenges.
or use my mod, Death Note. thats harder then this one and is not lore friendly.

So which one is harder in total?

they are not compatible

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I try using Stronger Group Combat along with Bigger, Badder Bosses and The Meek Shall Inherit. However that will not works. It seems that they are not compatible. Bosses are still about 90+ statistics, not getting stronger.

I try changing mod order. However no matter if I place Stronger Group Combat before or after Bigger, Badder Bosses and The Meek Shall Inherit, everything is the same.

I wonder if there are possible way to use these mods at the same time to have both very strong bosses and very strong non-boss NPCs?

Thanks.

Hello. I really like your mods but now I have some questions about them.

When using Stronger Group Combat, many NPCs are much stronger than vanilla game. However bosses are not getting really strong. For example, Hundred Guardians has about 80+ statistics and possibly 90+ sometimes, while The Five Invincibles including Esata have about 90+ statistics. It means that bosses are just a bit stronger that guardians.

I do not want such situation so I also try you mod Bigger, Badder Bosses and The Meek Shall Inherit. Under these two mod, bosses are really strong, like that The Five Invincibles haves statistics over 100+, but non-boss NPCs are not really buffed. Hundred Guardians has about 70 statistics and Holy Sentinels have only 40+ statistics. They are even weaker than many bandits in Stronger Group Combat.

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this one is a bit harder
my separated mods are not compatible with this mod.

Does this have the same modified values for creatures as your Primal Wildlife mod or should I download both to increase all NPC stats?

hey, if i use your mod do i need to place your mod on the bottom or ''attacks slots x3'' ? sorry if this is a obvious question.my only modding experience with Kenshi is clicking subscribe and play the game xD

anyway have a good day

that makes sense but i thought it was funny when i first learned a mod i had got rid of the buffs because i thought someone just really hates the sheks for no reason

yeah, some changes had to be made.
they are not to noticeable or affect the player much.
i would have made them separate, but to much work really for something so small.

ok i understand now makes sense when you think about the changes you made and the buffs shek have

ok thx

its already been mentioned, read older responses

is it bug

why does this remove sheks buffs to the 3 skills there good at now sheks have zero buffs and a ton of debuffs

this mod is not tested with any other mods beyond my own.
so use at your own risk with others.

Does this work with legendary of Kenshi mod?

I deleted every Mongrel entry from your mod and everything is back to normal. It must have something to do how the resident system is working. Sorry I cannot give a better explanation because I could not find the root cause of the problem.

You do touch the mongrel faction residents list though. Looks like you tried to boost the number of guards, I would assume so that they wouldn't die to fogmen. Because of how the resident system works though this is causing other lower priority squads to not spawn, including those shops mentioned below.

Better way to increase guard numbers would be to do so in the squads themselves, since then they'd take the same number of buildings.

i did not change buildings.

I really like this mod, it gives you a really hard time. But I dont know if its intentional or not, the mod changed (at least) the shops in Mongrel. There are now four barracks there, no armor shop and the thiefs guild isnt there (its a barracks instead). I disabled all the mods I had, imported the game and everything was back to normal. Installed all my mods again, the same thing happened (four barracks, no armory, no thiefes). Then I disabled only your mod and there it was - everything was back to normal. I hope its a bug and not intended.

it seams like normal difficulty after a while after your used to it.
I cant play vanilla levels no more, everyone seams so weak.

Didn't notice that this was part of your mod collection and assumed this was the default difficulty.

it was done to fix issues i created with the mod.
so yes, its intentional.

Is it intentional that this mod removes all positive stat boosts on sheks besides health?

not an issue, intentional.
bone dog nests being added to nearly every biome was added a couple year's ago. got adjusted a few times to lower the numbers, but is now at a level I find acceptable.
in my view, bone dogs are like real dogs, they are everywhere!

just a heads up, not sure why but this mod was causing bonedog nests to spawn all over the map in such numbers that the wolves were killing everything else on the map. not sure if its a conflict or what because ive used this mod before with no problems. Very weird issue for a group combat mod

if you have mods that change base NPC's, then yes, there is a big chance it will have conflicts.

ANy chance of conflicts on this one? I play a pretty heavily modded game and don't wanna break it.

I primarily play solo and I use the mod all the time with it.

Haha, I guess I'll just help my self to their eggs then.
Also Stronger Group Combat = Weaker Solo Combat?
My training is progressing nicely, But will my solo artist gal ever be as badass as your Mod graphic looks. At 90 toughness still stunlocked quite a bit.

yep
more gutters will spawn in time.

So the gorillo gangs are lucrative and fun to see, but they have made the beakthings extinct.
On my way to the hive in Dreg a beakthing nest spawned and they went to war with about 4 gorillo gangs and were wiped out. Intended?