I'm finishing pipes up now! Thanks everybody for all of the feedback and compliments! The map has seen many changes, layout and visual-wise, (plus memes) and it's waited long enough for the final.

i love the map

In addition to lighting up T, I see no reason to keep the spawn room cramped as it is- widening it would make it less frustrating to spawn in and get stuck

also T-B's ladder is buggy, only works at awkward angles

+ExtraCheesyPie I do agree with this, as the boost haults gameplay and aesthetics a bit. I'll probably remove this and lighten up T spawn in the next patch. Thank you for the feedback. :)

I would remove one of the T entrances to B- perhaps the upper one that needs a boost? you can leave it as a nade only spot, but it's just too much. You can also jump-scout over it, it's a pain in the ass.

Also, move T spawn back, and add lights to the T spawn area, wayyy too dark

You should bring back t spawn a little bit because cts can't set up

they dont stop coming and they dont stop coming and they dont stop coming and they dont stop coming and they dont stop coming and they dont stop coming and they dont stop coming and they dont stop coming and they dont stop coming and they dont stop coming and they dont stop coming and they dont stop coming and they dont stop coming and they dont stop coming and they dont stop coming and they dont stop coming and they dont stop coming

Savage on Philips' playtest server XD

But that's a bit strange to put just the iron bar but not the glass ^^

No glass is there thats why

Should connect The T spawn to The middle window:


http://www.noelshack.com/2016-26-1467417583-20160702015741-1.jpg

http://www.noelshack.com/2016-26-1467417583-20160702015838-1.jpg

Doesn't break the glass when I shoot >.< http://www.noelshack.com/2016-26-1467417389-20160702015525-1.jpg

On A site we can't go there: http://www.noelshack.com/2016-26-1467417012-20160702014429-1.jpg With a boost which look strange

In mid with boost again can't go there: http://www.noelshack.com/2016-26-1467417011-20160702014346-1.jpg

The size of the objects here are a bit strange and we can't boost on top of theme:
http://www.noelshack.com/2016-26-1467417007-20160702014336-1.jpg

And can't go there on B: http://www.noelshack.com/2016-26-1467417009-20160702013824-1.jpg

If you do the same thing, but on the concrete, you will hear a squeaky door open sound, but it only happens once

On A, if you throw a gernade on the A planting area (on the wood area, it also has to explode on the wooded planting area) and explode, you will hear a vent breaking sound. (If you broke the vents, the sound won't come back

O crap, I mixed bomb sites. I'm so used to A on left and B or right

We are aware that you are able to wallbang most of those. Its because most of the props are from Nuke and haven't been fixed to prevent that from happening. We're currently uploading a new update as we speak.

Apparently, you can wallbang the white boxes, but you can't wallbang the (more thinner) red looking cabinet on A

You can get the bomb stuck on B by dropping it behind the boxes next to the yellow thing that holds the boxes (I forgot what it is)

If u drop the bomb on the white 2 boxes (1 on top, 1 on bottom) next to the entrance to the ladder which leads to mid, sometimes you need a 2-man boost, others u need a 3-man boost just to get on the top

You can clip throught the switch box thing next to the door on B

Lots of white boxes are wallbangable (Mainly AWP and Deagle). Its gonna make CTs OP if they know this map really well

Thanks for your feedback, we are currently working on fixing bombsite B (coming out in the new update). As for middle we have made a new area on T side.

My ideas

-I think you really should work out B site, it feels messy, maybe just put something away to clean it up a bit
-I find the vent spot on A pretty OP, maybe something to make it less OP?
-And lastly, I would welcome some more cover on mid, or bigger range or something... It just doesn't feel like proper mid. Yes, and also, the fact, that one passage to mid is not that easy to get as a T is disappointing for me.

Anyway, I think this map is awesome and has a great potential. Hope you will get succcesful in future! :)

Just some quick notes/suggestions/feelings from your friendly neighborhood GN2:

-The jump on the far right side of B that the CTs come to is kinda awkward, with multiple small boxes that each have to be jumped upon. Maybe use one small box and one large? Maybe a little staircase of some sort?
-The Ts and CTs can meet on either site a little too quickly I think, assuming both go to a site ASAP, or close to it.
-Maybe the main lower T entrace to A should have one box ahead of it, rather than two on its sides as it currently does.

I feel like on A the boxes leading up to site should be removed and one box should be added to the middle to remove visability for ts rushing the site

I don't know where you got your timings but they are balanced. Both teams get to the site at the same time.

The biggest thing ive noticed playtesting this map was the meet times. The t's get to the sites way too fast and leave little time for the cts to set up at all. My suggestion is push back the terrorist spawn a little

You broke it.

lol

Sadly in the Hammer Editor we are unable to name that area as "Poop Chute" if CS:GO offered the ability to do so, we would. Also, thanks for all the support!

A site vent = poopchute

make vent called POOP CHUTE

name the vent Poopshoot

name the vent Poopshoot

Vent in A site should be called poopchute

A VENT = POOP CHUTE

Vent = Poop Shoot

Vents should be called poopchute

v called vents

the chute on a site is now called poop chute

POOPCHUTE

POOPSHOOT

name vent poopchute

poop chute

Hello, I found 10 bugs... I will record them, upload and I will sent you a video

Thanks for the feedback, we will be working on a new update.

Lengthening the time it takes for T's to get on B would improve this map as I often found the T's would arrive at the same time as or even before the CT's.

It's a little bit stressful to play in that it feels so close-quarters, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. I think the corridors around T spawn are difficult to play effectively within, and they were often just unused or irritating to navigate (for either side). It didn't make for very engaging gameplay, so perhaps simplify those routes whilst building up the detail or shape of the interior space.

The open area with the crates also feels somewhat closed up, like a fighting pit, with not a lot of cover and poor lines of sight (so, perhaps the cover is in the wrong spots). The other 'rooms' feel a bit rigid in that they don't feel like allow much freedom for CT's, and there isn't a lot of motivation to go through them - they're essentially just dark rooms with enemies at each end, and the firefights mostly turned into stagnant target practice.

I'm going to go ahead and presume you've heard enough about the door.. ;) Good luck with any updates!

I think this map can work, but u should stretch out the paths to and between the sites a bit at least. Compared to the maps of last week there is sufficient and not toomuch cover on both the sites, so good job on that man :)