it works

only one way to find out.

Unknown henry, try it.

is this 1212 compatible?

-Read the comments below-

The ai fully use all changes made the same as the player.

not one comment or word about if it affects the AI, so its useless....

I miss the archers from Medieval 2. After it all Archer units in new Total war titles got hammered hard and become useless.

no worries

Ok !Thanks

should be, probibly some cross over unit issues
but i doubt anything major. ony edits arrows n their damage

radious compatible?

so how to translate that into cause and effect- was a right bitch- so i went for simplest method. - its not perfect, but it sort of worked- - and yeah your not wrong- just i coudlent find a better way at the time

becouse ofc- cold climate bows, dont work in heat. they-snap/warp/glue melts/unsticks. they melt- then fall apart. -- and desert/ warm bows, fall apart in rain. (glue dilutes and unsticks)

- theres no- humidiety or heat/ rain on weapons-- ie i could make it so persian archers cant fire in rain or fog-- to (Pretend asif they would only be on a battlefeild with rain if they went west- giving massive debuf/ stat loss- ) --- while to compensate in heat their bows do more damage (Bs ofcource) -- but how to make the game act asif it has climate effects when it dousent =)

the other problem is- the game dousent let you write code that can do that ;)

was mainly going for, the bow types, and arrows, not the actual region- idealy as you say- id have alot more changes- but getting that mix between- realism and peoples dlc -


- i went for the climate ideal- but the bitch is i cant make it so persian units basicly cant shoot bows in the west, and the west get fucked in the east lol

and great mod btw in every other regard

^^please and thank just for the time to view and respond (regardless of answer)

so going through all the different bow units and how this mod effects them, thinking the caledonians got shafted compared to german and persian archers, im not here to argue that they're nearly as good as persian archers but could we get a baseline bow type swap for the highland and highland elites and the two general units for caledonians? right now im using a mod "realistic celts" which does this, but it doesnt scale the fire rate at all (elite highlands are slow as hell) and it adds some other stat changes i don't find necessary.

It is working properly thanks

the fact you could march a whole army of european warriors through the east pissed me off- - basicly. the catch for the easterners is, they come west, and their bows become usless in rain/ humid/ damp weather -- hunnic bows would fall apart in brittish/ french weather.

even then- not on range. or accuracy. -- still like you i got sick of no real consaquences. i changed that with this. xd, you gotta kill them, and really must put your infantry in defencive positions or they will drop.

archers are nasty fucks. - people seem to forget just how insanly vicious they are. imean it all comes down to accuracy. - but the welsh longbow men were feared throughout europe. - as they should have been. - only the arabs (Turk and elite muslim archers) could match them,

ive just been waiting for the shadow of mordor xd, - but times gon on- really i wanted a medieval one, but they only made it for charl-- not atilla-- thats what pissed me off n i stoped playing xd. love it really- but what can you do besides remake the entier game how you want in parts--

http://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=608706087 -- na its fine mate- all good

ah they are less than english longbow. - might find using my reskin mod helps identify them better for you-

unknown what issue you were having then dude ,

they are unique units, (for cultural reasons) best of the best, hence no active reload, as itd be utter madness. - + they have no need- as their arrow count makes up for them not having infinite ammo. they carry 3-4X normal amount-

thing with english longbow men is, it dident blody matter what arrow they used, they tore up any unit. -- a longbow fiering any arrow would kill. if it hit its mark
-- some units have the efects slightly diferent becouse of bow type. as i heavility edited he bows to reflect the full onslaught they bring. to the time era.

the main diference is in relaod, and armor peircing. - velocity - and function.

I will go play a battle. Things may have worked themselves out.

Correct

english longbowmen?

ime not sure mate, what exsact unit. and what exsactly isnt working?

The only one I saw different was the whistling shot, so it must be working. I guess I need to goto bed. Thanks you for checking

all range, damage effect, and all bits inbetween. - english longbow men dont have a auto refill- rest do

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its all working i just tested it. - not sure what issue your having.

all working for me dude-- just checked

i see no updates so- dosuent make any sence there

they must have updated it then

theyve probibly updated the vanilla game then dude. - i havent played atilla for a long long time- - woudlent be too hard to fix. but i dont really have any interest in doing so-

again was working last i used it- anyhtring that also edits arrow rnages/ damages ie radious or any other mod that edits those lines will conflict

i assume so- unless games been updated

Is this mod working fine with Slavic nations and their Poison Arrows?

reality: KILL THOSE FUCKING ARCHERS! +1 :D

its almost impossible to balence realism, with is (terrifying) arrows are not your freinds. ;) with gameplay --

i find they really fuck you up and make you go after the archers. and thats really, what you should be doing in a battle v the archer nations.

oh its fine dude. it jsut pisses me off ime left with little options to make a realistic mod you know =)

wasent trying to mock you or anything, just saying it pisses me off too!

And in an attempt to not be entirely condescending myself, the aim of the original comment was not to be negatively critical - it was to point something out that could have been overlooked.

I mean, yes, there's something to be said for realism, and I don't disagree with your reasoning nor your intentions there and have plenty of background likewise. However, this is also a game, and from someone who spent multiple comments complaining about how overpowered javelins were I perhaps (apparently incorrectly) expected some consideration of game balancing, even if it maybe needed to be a little inventive (as this rather nice mod has been), rather than hiding behind the shield of realism while deathly critical arrows fly at you. (Oh ho, mod wit.)

So I hope you'll take these compliments along with the little bit of criticisms in kind.

Ah, yes, "reality." We peons know nothing of it.

Ah, yes, "condescension." We know thee well.