New update is here!. Thanks Dallan for the idea to make the Coven Worship tenet into a doctrine.
Users of Tenet Submod don't need to anything they can just play their saves as usual. But if they want to play with doctrine instead of a tenet they should disable the submod in their new game.

So as of now the tenet submod turns the Worshipped Doctrine here into a Tenet.

Please dont spread witchcraft

Does it wotk with Elder King mod ?

@Jericho, yes there is I believe it's 8 months but thats exactly for the situations like yours. For big realms it takes some time for guests to arrive. So if I can shorten that value to say 3 months then it will reduce the attending guests count drastically. I believe I can add a game rule for that but the more the merrier right ?

Awesome mod. Question - is there a way to adjust the amount of time spent waiting for guests? if you have a large empire it can be 12 months just to wait for a darn rite to start. I've already tried disinviting groups but the game won't let me start the rite with no iinvitees and then invite nearby witches individually.

I was looking in the mod folder for something like "max_guest_arrival_delay_time = { months = 3 }" but I didn't recognize anywhere to work that in.

@Darkwing Phoenix no idea. If that mod also touches the witch related stuff, trait, activity, or the convert to witchcraft interaction and scheme it might behave differently. Try to place my mod below After the End that way my changes will take precedence. Other things traditions and court positions should work normally.

I'll still test them with my modlist, but just wondering

Just asking, but does this mod work with After The End? I doubt it wouldn't work, since it doesn't mess with anything too badly (Just making a trait more immersive and slapping a tradition on top, and Court Herbalist just adds a court position)

wow, @arkasıSarı8, your comments showed up as I finished typing my last message...thanks!

ok, figured it out. It's court alchemist that requires folk healers, NOT herbalists.

@Gikov For Court Alchemist to show up on Court Positions list 2 things are required:

- You have the Royal Court DLC Active
AND
- Your Characters Culture has Folk Healers Tradition

I know you have the Royal Court DLC cause you are saying you can see the Herbalist and that has the same requirement so only thing left is the cultural tradition.

@Gikov Hmm. Maybe its a load order issue. Try this load order as I have tested with this mainly.
-....
-Court Herbalist
-Improved Witchcraft
-Improved Witchcraft - Tenet Submod
-....

I do have witch, I did start a new game and I DO see the court herbalist, but I don't see the alchemist in either the available or non available list.

@Gikov if you have not started a new game thats normal. I tied the court herbalist to Folk Healers tradition but if you dont start a new game that does not work. Court Herbalist always shows up. For Court Alchemist look at the requirements again. Employer need to have a witch trait. Court Alchemist is probably at the bottom at "Unavailable Court Positions" Tab.

Hi, great mod. I'm seeing the Court Herbalist, but not the Alchemist. Something I need to know to get that to work?

@arkasiSari8 Use the lobotimized characters mod, and use that as a flag so lobotomized characters can't be cursed, but still more useful that dead for social metrics, and dynamics

Im working on an update. A brand new tradition and a bunch of improvements are on the way...

Would this Mod work in Lord Of The Rings Mod?

close enough, welcome back Monks and Mystics DLC

@Samotron, lucky for you official update 1.7.1 did adressed that, no need for a mod fix.

Always found it frustrating that zealous characters are still harder to convert for religions with virtuous witchcraft. Does this fix that?

Looks great! I was looking for a mod similar to Witchcraft, but subtler in scope. I will be watching this progress with great interest.

Necromancy could be kind of interesting, as in a rite to speak to a dead character and maybe learn a secret of one of their associates or even who killed them.

Open for some suggestion ideas

@mutewaffles thats totally doable, flag a character "untargetable by curse" and set target selection for hex enemy skip the characters with that flag. But important part is displaying this flag to the player so the player should clrealy understand why that character can not be targeted by Hex intent.

I'm somewhat working on a Realms in Exile localization mod for this. I'm curious, if there's a way to flag if certain characters/cultures can be made to be untargetable by the curse?

would be dope if in religions that accept it or praise it have a choice to choose if they want to practice light magic instead of only black magic(it feels weird to me that a zealot would worship the horned god)

@kgptzac That would be great but thats really out of the scope of this mod tbh. Activity guest list is a whole another story.

It would be great if you can make the invite list more modular. I really don't want to sit thru 10 months waiting for my house members to come from every corners of my realm for a grand rite.

@HunkHerrmann I don't know the Witchcraft mods lore but it is more like supernatural. I tried to base mine more on reality and thats how witch covens basically designed on the game as well. There is nothing supernatural. They are just bunch of fanatic guys that gathers around every few years and talk to each other basically.

@Dallan yeah I agree, using doctrines instead of tenets should improve compatibility but tenets are the defining principles of the faith and thats how its being used by the game. Doctrines are more like rules adherents should follow so adding modifiers and significantly effecting some part of the faith with doctrines would feel out of place and I dont want that. The mods should make players feel like it was part of the game already not something you stuck it up with a tape. As for the limited tenet slots competition, yeah I want that. It's for balancing reasons. Tenets gives you a pretty good bonuses and otherwise without a limited tenet slots you would be getting that advantage for free without a sacrifice or a thought basically.

Does this mod compatible with Witchcraft mod's lore?

oh, DEFINITELY going to play this, witchcraft needs something more without necessarily going Totally Supernatural like some of the other mods

Justt an idea: have you considered adding the Tenet's features to the "Witchcraft: Virtuous" (doctrine_witchcraft_virtuous) doctrine or a new doctrine in the Witchcraft group instead of a tenet? It currently doesn't do much else besides making the trait a virtue, as a modder it's easier to keep compatibility modding doctrines than tenets because you only have to overwrite the single doctrine's group instead of the whole tenet group, and as a player it doesn't compete for limited tenet slots?

@Lesni4ok , I don't know. I don't use that mod but you should use the compatch for withcraft mod I made

@Peace 雙 yes it should be Compatible with CFO, EPE, RICE and VIET

I wonder if it is compatible with RICE?

Does your compatch work with the Supernatural mod https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2856525601 ? They've integrated Witchcraft mod features into their mod, but I haven't checked compatibility yet.

@Dovenius @qwerty Released a compatch for Witchcraft, I tested a bit, seems working.

will it work with witchcraft mod ?

absolutely love this

@qwerty, a simple compatch is needed. Otherwise witchever one below will get priority. I will take a look.

Do you think this would be (mostly) compatible with the 'Witchcraft' mod?

Greeting! i have translation it in CK3 mod Chinese submod,
Would u include a line in description?

Here's my Chinese translation:
https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3403925213