Oh, that was awkward...

Yes I mentioned it in the description. Not compatible with map editor

The mod crashes the game when you try to access the map editor or create a new one. Is that the way it's meant to be?

Well if it's still random and within the configured range then I would like to say you are unlucky 😅 Note that editing the settings do not work right away, only in the next cycle because the lenght is already determined at the start of one.

Am I just unlucky with the lengths of the seasons consistently above the average? I'll keep fiddling with the settings but most of the droughts (even the first ones) have been much too long (at the higher end of whatever settings I had used).
Overall I'm happy with the mod, it's fun and pretty varied.

That's strange but I have heard a similar report before. In the end we couldn't find out what was causing the issue. Do you happen to have something blocking Windows' registry (if you are on Windows)? The settings are stored there by Unity. You can check "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Mechanistry\Timberborn" and see if the setting is correctly saved.

I'm not in the discord but also it's not-- the initial import works fine. What happens is I import the exported JSON, it looks like it's imported and set correctly, but then I close the settings/go into my save, and it's just put them back to last settings they were manually put to.

I don't know if looking at the export would change anything about that. (Also sorry took me a while to reply r i p).

@Luke oh, that's great, thx! : )

@Akinare so I happen to have a look at your I18n mod and now I understand what you meant. With v7.1.3 update, each weather now has their own description text/key so you don't have to put them all together anymore :) All related mods are updated as well.

I just tested, the function still works on my side. Could you send me the file you exported please? Thanks!

Oh... I hope there is nothing I update that broke the Import/Export function. It's been a while since I touched it so I don't actually test that function everytime I make an update. Could be related to a recent update of Mod Settings. If you are in Discord, could you send me the exported JSON file please? I will investigate in case it only happens to you.

For some reason when I import settings for this, it just resets back to whatever settings I manually set them to before. Which means no easy just import to swap my settings between certain saves. Very fun though. Just an annoying thing I've noticed.

Glad you enjoy it. That's why there is a "Start Cycle" option for Single Weather mode. Make sure you are prepared by then ;)

So, as I happened to get two droughts and even a bad tide in a row recently without any fresh water inbetween, I'd really like to say thank you again for Single Weather Mode. It's very enjoyable to survive that one and it gives a reason to prepare very well ... though it would have killed my settlement in an early game stage for sure. :-D

The only sad thing was to see the last surviving trees outside the reach of my reservoirs to finally die out. :-( ... but also the reason to expand them further to regrow them. :-D

ok thanks

Yes, options are applied globally and not per-save. However weather is already decided one cycle ahead so changing it won't apply until the next season (and in some case, even the following one).

can there be or is there a option to edit the weather after the save is created

Modders can choose whatever text they want for each option (like Enable <weather name>), it's just the default ones I provided uses the template to reduce repetition and faster development.

A little suggestion: could you separate LV.MW.EnableWeather into individual IDs for each weather? This would help with defining custom weather in the MOD. (or add a tip after title of new weather?)

> max strength of water source is 8

Yes this is correct, game's cap in the code. You can intervene with certain tools to remove the cap but normally, 8 is what you can get. I think because if the water is > 8, there's not enough flow for it to flow out and cause weird looking water column. Bad Water Source has 9 tiles so way more space.

Hi, I have tried different values for the Monsoon maximum multiplier, but max strength of water source is 8, while badwater source is basic + multiplier. Do I miss sth? And if someone has asked this question, please tell me : )

Ok, thanks :)

Yeah you may need to ask that on Discord I think (on the official Timberborn discord there is #mod-creators channel), easier to discuss than on Steam comments.

I am trying to create and run a modified version of the mod where the weather progress bar isn't reversed

I am not sure what you are trying to do. The mod from Steam is compiled from my source code on GitHub so you can use it from right here, but to compile it yourself you will have to modify quite a few Properties in the build. See https://datvm.github.io/TimberbornMods/ModdingGuide/advanced-modding

It isn't working because I am not installing the mod properly from GitHub. How do I do it correctly?

Yes that should be where the code for it is. As for why Mod Settings isn't recognizing it I am not sure why. Do you have two mods with the same ID enabled at the same time? Make sure the ModId properties are correct too.

Isn't the "UpdatePanel()" method in the "ModdableWeatherPanel" file what's causing this?
I tried downloading the mod locally and change the method but it seems that "Mod Settings" isn't recognizing it and i can't access the settings

Purely my preference. Just kidding, I coded it and realized it was reversed compared to the original but well, it serves the purpose :P

why is the weather progress bar reversed?

Thanks, and what you asked is already a thing ;) https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3508139186

Very cool mod! Reminds me of the floods you could make with certain water source strengths in U4, finally having this feature back is great.

Additional feature request: bad water monsoons :)

Makes the game really really really easy sadly

thank you for the confirmation. does anyone have any known specific settings or at least rough numbers so i dont have to start tweaking from scratch, please?

Yes, you can add tweak the number in the Settings manually. It's true the more haz weather types you have, the slower they get harder, you can reduce the number of handicap cycle if you like. Now that you reminded me of that, I had a plan for "wildcard handicap", i.e. the handicap goes harder no matter the kind of weather it was.

Single weather may make it harder depends on how you tweak it. It was in response to a request to blur away the difference between hazardous and temperate weather.

i absolutely love this after trying it out for a while. however i tried to put everything on hard, except of shortening temperate, which is off. im in cycle 8 and by series of good luck i barely had any challenge, always monsune or rain. what i find might be an issue is the speed at which hazardous wether increases in duration - you have less droughts so they increase slower. do you guys have any way of making this a hard-level challenge? is is what single weather mode is for? or did you tweak out the handicap cycles?

The mod seems to be throwing an error I do not know why I really tried to get it too work probably is one of the most interesting mods on the workshop would love to get it working throwing error, not using anything but you're mods.

One way to confirm if my mod is working properly or not is to make the chance to 10% or 90% for example and see if you actually have fewer or more temperate single weather. Also with More Logs Mod, you can see how the mod decide stuff printed out. Spoiler though because the next cycle's Temperate Weather and Single mode are printed out there.

Hi,
First one, programming a modded weather is already up to the modder, they should have no issue adding any effect they want, including making a new weather or modifying this current Rain weather.

About the 2nd question, this is what the mod does, say you set Single mode to 30% and Temperate to 50%
1. Roll a number from 0 to 99, if smaller than 30, it's a single weather (if not, nothing further, it's not a single weather cycle).
2. Roll a number from 0 to 49, if smaller than 50, it's a temperate, if not, it's a hazardous weather.
3a. If temperate, roll a temperate season as usual (could be rain, temperate or anything you chose), and assign a 0-day "placeholder" hazardous weather.
3b. If hazardous, roll a hazardous season as usual, and assign a 0-day "placeholder" temperate weather.

So yeah if you have way more hazardous weather at 50% chance, you were just unlucky ;)

Hi Luke! A couple of questions...
The first is (again) about rain: could it be possible to add an output multiplier like the one of the monsoon? This way if someone wanted to add some kind of effect on water, they could do it by increasing the output.
The second about the Single Weather Temperate chance: if I set it to 50, does it mean that I will have 50% chance of Temperate and 50% chance of Hazardous or does it mean that I will have a chance of 50 of Temperate over 100 of Hazardous? I am asking because I set it to 50 but it seems I am gettin way more Hazardous weather. But maybe I am just unlucky :D
Thank you again for this amazing mod!

You're welcome, I couldn't enjoy it if you wouldn't make it possible. :-D

Just an idea, how about "faking" the forecast as a workaround? Is there any way of file management for example, with which you could temporarily replace the forecast image for the skipped season by the proper one?

By the way, as I asked once, your mod and "Ebb and Flow" works perfectly fine together.

Yes, they are just 0-day temperate or hazardous weather when that happens to ensure compatibility :D glad you are enjoying it.

Oops, sorry for not checking the description first. :-D

Thanks for clarification, so your mod doesn't change the next non-hazardous season being hazardous, but it skips the non-hazardous season once it happens. Now I do understand. Thanks. :-)

Hi as noted in the description, Forecast won't work with single weather because when you start a season, the single weather starts immediately. So you have Cycle 3 as Badtide and Cycle 4 as Badtide for example, when you are in Cycle 3, the game has no knowledge of Cycle 4 and Single weather, thinking it would be a temperate next but it's in fact a 0-day temperate weather and Badtide of Cycle 4 starts immediately.

Hi Luke. Today I started to use single weather. Once I had a bad tide, which forecasted a temperate season ... but when the season changed, there was a new bad tide.

Guess it is a bug, that a wrong forecast is shown?

Well, certainly makes it impossible to succeed, I mean early game on hard difficulty you barely get by. Having two 15 day droughts in a row when you couldn't possibly have gotten enough material to build up and save does make it impossible. I disabled the double weather thing though since it results in completely impossible scenarios. Its only for late game risk taking.

"Two droughts in a row" - this is exactly what it's supposed to do. You had two cycles of hazardous-only weather.

It might have just been because of the current weather at the time of loading. Might have taken 2 cycles to fully take effect when I disabled the Single Weather mode. I'm not sure what happened there, so I'd have to restart to figure it out if its working and stuff. Just leaving an extra message here on my thoughts when I continued for a while.

Its still not honoring single weather mode, and its become a problem even so. Two droughts in a row with no water at all, it killed my colony.

Single Weather mode would be nice if it could ensure that no-water events cannot run concurrently. I'm gonna disable single weather now and revert to an earlier save.

v7.1.1: Fixed Single Weather mode does not honor "Start Cycle" option.

I forgot to mention the other part, you are right that the Start Cycle was ignored. I fixed it, thanks.