Thanks for the explanation.

And I was playing the Folktails, so my observatories became obsolete once I figured this out (was my first time with the mod).
By itself the power to science conversion is fine, but the various science projects increasing power gained from water wheels and windmills quickly super charged this. Another factor is resource cost and space used for power generators, on a medium or bigger map you end up over-producing power anyway usually. I'm thinking a way to balance it could be diminishing returns or a % based ratio. Don't know how the code works though so might not be viable.

And this isn't a complaint at all, I really love this mod family. I'll poke around at tweaking it for my taste later.

1. If a project say 5 Science per Level per day, you choose a level, and it costs you that much science at the beginning of the day (and the effect start taking at the beginning of that day as well). Some say, for example, 20 per 5 worker per day per level, meaning, at level 1, and you have 6 workers, then it cost you 40 science a day.
2. I have heard about it. Not sure why because it's half the science of the Numbercruncher. If you build Numbercruncher, you get double the amount of science for that much power :P
3. There were discussion about it here and on Discord. Someone said they would make a balance mod for this one but unfortunately I haven't seen one. You can actually make one very easily, it would be a JSON mod, no code needed. See the guide in the description.

1: I don't understand what the cost per day is or translates to or what I need to sustain it.
2: Turning excess power into science points is hilariously overpowered.
3: Most of the science projects are too easy to get and too powerful all together.

Great mod though!!

It's OK,I found the file and change it successfully

OK,I will try

Hi, can't fix it from my side because if I do, all FT Smelter will get it too. Earlier comments say they modified the Greedy Builder's file to use IT's Smelter instead of FT and it works.

when I use greedy builder,Heat-Recycling Smelter (Iron Teeths) don't work. probably because the
smelter belongs to folktails,and some nw recipes from your other mod also don't work.I hope you can fix it. plz

so folks, how's the stability of the base mod going? ready to roll?

That's so strange. I knew about it and was pretty sure I already updated it. Oh well... A few patches ago they changed SolidHighlight into YellowHighlight. Just UI issue so I probably will only update it if there is another change.

I just wanted to bring to your attention that the Builder sledges description has a spelling error. There is <SolidHighlight> around both sides of the word builders

v7.3.0: Removed Emergencies projects (moved to Weather Projects due to them using some Weather code).

I don't think suits would be a good name for it though considering they are beavers. They shouldn't have issues with bees in the first place. I'd say Bee Repellent and claim its made from fauna.

Right I had that idea before when adding Faction specific projects but forgot about it. Seem simple enough.

i've got an idea for a science project. "Bee Keeper Suits: Farmers are immune to bee stings"

That's almost a whole IDE and/or a programming language. Sorry unfortunately I don't think that will be in my plan any time soon.

I have an idea for this mod. A UI in game that lets users create new research from in game. Kinda like the way Automation works, but with a tool to make new research projects without coding. Simple things like adjusting recipe costs, adding recipes to specific buildings, changing efficiency percentages, etc. Anything that can be a simple value change that doesn't require coding (like your weather stuff seems to require coding).

Is too bad all this is way overly complex, I can't make any mods that change your mods here. I wanted to change some of the research projects to balance them but some of yours use code and I can't even slightly figure them out, same goes for the ultra basic stuff. I can't just make a simple file that explains this and this makes that for recipes.

Yeah unfortunately it's coded for IT's Smelter but Greedy Builder uses FT Smelter. I think someone here suggested a workaround for that.

Heat-Recycling Smelter does not work for greedy builders.

I think the category should change green if all of its projects are completed. Also perhaps next to the open and collapse button, a number of completed/max projects and a number of active Science being used by projects with levels to them to show which categories are using science rather than only a total amount at the top.

The top-left button where it shows your Science number. Normally without this mod clicking that one does nothing. You can also use a Keybinding to open it (default Y)

Where is the button to open the unlock window supposed to be?

I just added a guide on how you can mod this mod (and any extension mods) with code-less approach (using JSON files): https://datvm.github.io/TimberbornMods/ScientificProjects/codeless

Thank you for your feedback. That's very fair though I'd say someone told me at cycle 7+ you are already in the "late game" (i.e. can do anything you want). To be honest I haven't finished a game in hard mode as well so I am just a casual player. I did say I need help with balancing but there was no response so I tried to come up with numbers as best as I could. Most "tiers" you talked about, I tried to line up with the game's building (i.e. the 100 to 1500 range). I am happy if someone can help give me some helpful solid numbers. You can create a Discussion here on Steam or on Discord, there is a thread for this mod (and its expansions) :)

As a suggestion, maybe divide the upgrades in 3 tiers. 1st tier cost something like 5k-10k, 2nd tier something like 50k and the final one 100k+. As of now, I won't be using the mods (even tho I love them) cuz I find them way too easy to achieve (the one where you get free science points from extra power basically lets you buy everything almost instantly. Please maybe consider tweaking the numbers around (or have a "hard mode" option in the mods) where you get more expensive upgrades.

I'll write here since this is the main mod: I'm loving how much stuff you are implementing in the game (all other 3 projects are awesome), but I honestly gotta say that they trivialize the game WAY too much. IMHO the upgrades should be WAY, WAY more expensive than they are now. I'm barely on cycle 12 and I can basically buy every single research (including all of your 4 projects) and they make beavers just way too OP. Ok maybe not OP, but just a LOT better. I would be ok with maybe having the 1st tier of upgrades costing something like 5k-10k points, but the next ones should be in the 100k+ to afford. Like, having the basically free smelter is just OP. Beavers running around at like double speed too.

Seem like a big change like that needs to be another mod's feature. Sorry but I think it's out of scope of this mod.

Could it be possible to add an update that makes farmers collect food until their max capacity and only then go back to storage it?
Normal behaivior is unefective as they collect 1 plant and then go back, with so much capacity still to pick up more.

It turned out to be the Smart Power mod. :(
I really want to use the project and Smart Power. I hope the next patch enables multiple power mods.

Okay, I'll try that!

Oh I have heard Smart Power intefere with my other mod Brain-Power as well. unfortunately the way the game code, Power mods usually cannot work together. You can send me the save on Discord on "mod-users" channel. But first I think you should try disabling that mod and see if this mod works correctly?

Yes, I do see the green buff. I have one mod related to power, and that is Smart Power. I do not, however believe that affects this mod. I'd be more than happy to send you the save, but I don't know how to do that.

hi do you see the green buff like on the screenshot? Is there any other mod that may affect power of the Wood Workshop? if not could you send me the save please, thanks.

The Resin-Infused Planks recipe isn't working. The wood workshop still uses the normal amount of power. I double checked that it was unlocked, and it is. Any idea what to do?

Thank you! All good now!

Thanks luke

v7.2.1: Should work with April 10 update now.

OK done. I did not do a full mod removal but the logs specifically says it's the scientific projects mod is crashing.

Hi I could play the game with this mod and all other expansion mods on. Can you send me the full Player.log in a Discussion please? Thanks.

Something after the 4/8 update has broken scientific projects. I've tried removing all mods and just adding this and the prerequisites but get a "NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object" error.

v7.2.0: Greedy Builders can now use the faction-specific projects.

v7.1.3: Should work with April 02 update now. Please note you need to update the Buff & Debuff Dependency as well if Steam does not automatically update it for you. Please tell me if there is any crash. I didn't get much time to test thoroughly yet.

after having done some testing the issue wiht placing the smelters still seems to persist altougth removing the building doesnt seem to crash the game anymore

v7.1.2: Should fix the crash when placing and deleting Smelter and Wood Workshop with the new upgrades now. Also fix the recipe keeps getting doubled for each building instead of just once.

Could you please try this version and see if the crash is fixed? Thanks.

Also if you still have the crash, maybe try to pause the building and wait for 1-2s before deleting, and see if it still crashes?

Hi could you make sure you updated the mod to v7.1.1? I cannot reproduce it anymore on my side for either FT or IT (I could do that before when you first reported). If you still have the crash, could you send the crash log, and share the save file please? Thanks.

after some testing i can confirm that its an issue with the mod itself and not due to some mods affecting it

uh, so for some reason the update didnt stop my game from crashing whenever i tried to remove/add a smelter but it could also be due to other mods. If i find anything else that could cause it, i will mention it

v7.1.1: Fixed crash when deleting Smelter and Wood Workshop with the new upgrades.

Thanks for reporting!

for some reason if i try to delete or place a smelter on IT with the smelter upgrade it makes my game crash