@obsidious so making a new genotype is incredibly easy, it was about as complex as changing graphics settings in a .ini file. It's been enough time that I don't even remember 100% of what I did but the part where I had to get a coder involved to script stuff was when I wanted it to do custom things like start with missing limbs and behave the way I wanted in regard to tonics, there was easy things to set, something like ismutant=1 and istruekin=1 in the xml file, was simple enough but then they got truekin's stronger tonic effects so instead we just went with ismutant=1 and then the script removes limbs on game start and gives access to cybernetics machines

Ooo, I've been looking for a mod that allows access to both power systems but starting from a baseline of almost-mutant rather than almost-truekin like the Mechanimist Genotypes mod! Definitely subscribing!

Also, I mean to start modding when I can, and I am likely to start with XML and then learn to code: out of interest, where did you run into the issues with putting what's in your head into the mod without scripting? Thanks for making everything freely editable too!

---

@Proto, that's... actually really interesting, given the theming. I know that the Rogue Robot mod advises against using other chargen mods at the same time due to such problems, but I might actually try that.

Forgive my slow, smooth brain; Just double checking. This type allows both mutations and cybernetics to be used correct? ...If so- totally understand the brutal start now.

Huh weirdly this presents mutations from the rogue robot mod when creating a character.

Yes! this is what Im always looking for

Cold mod idea

Great mod! One issue, though: (this is more stemming from my linguistic pedantry) in the description of the mod, it should say "thy kin" instead of "thine kin". Thine is simply a form of thy used before a vowel (think 'a' vs 'an').

Regardless, this feels like the closest thing to a "deprived/challenge start" mod that Qud has - keep up the good work!

Crumped chimera have a very difficult start, but honestly by level 12 they are already stronger than true kin. They eventually get stronger than mutants too, though that depends heavily on finding decent cybernetics. I got more powerful than I would have been as a mutant at around level 24 when I found motorized treads.

This is probably the most balanced mod for hybrid mutant + cybernetics, but personally I'd prefer a slightly easier early game, and fewer mutation points per level to avoid inevitably scaling to be the strongest. Maybe a restriction on cybernetics as well, though I'm not sure what would be fair.

Thank you, this mod is so much more gratifying than Sifrah Terminal Hacking. I love that mod but this is exactly what I needed. Live and Drink!

yes, "worse tonics" was a specific goal of mine with the mod lol

ah, does that mean worse tonics?

this genotype is flagged as a mutant, and given access to cybernetics through a script, to make sure that all consumables and effects that should affect someone with mutations do so appropriately

hey, for warm static, are only skills randomized or are mutations also randomized? and are there any other items that work differently for mutants and truekin that work one way or another for wretchedkin what i should know about?

nevermind figured out how

but how do i steal those items without the entire town killing me?

there's a canteen that spawns in one of the joppa houses alongside a chest you can steal from, and at rust wells you can farm the qudzu who can't really damage you, still requires some pretty good RNG to get a win condition

and how do i deal with the water cost of getting there?

i assume to get the artifacts and wires for argyle? how to i avoid or deal with enemies there though?

@... usually head to rust wells for early levels and try to get a good mutation, it's definitely a struggle though

are there any guides or tips to playing crumpred wretchedkin?

@thread that's super strange, I don't know anything about dailies or how they work, I'd have assumed they could only be done with vanilla content because of the online leaderboards. You can only open genotypes.xml in the mod folder and change the randomweight, I set it to 50 because that's the same number mutant has and you could try messing around with it, but I have no idea if it's possible to set individual random weights for the subtypes

Nvm, I should just disable the mod when I want to do dailies!

is there some way to get "crumped" to appear less often in dailies? i'd love to see "deprived" there, but i've seen "crumped" as the choice for the daily run multiple times since installing this mod, and i just can't do it thx!

@frank thanks for your help i take tinkering on every char so i diddnt know that was a feature love the mod :]

having a ton of fun with this so far :)

@votex that's normal for a character that doesn't have tinkering. If you have tinkering and they're still "data disk"s then that's an odd bug

Not sure if this is a me problem or if its a bug in the mod but none of the data disk have names all are just titled "data dist" the only way to figure out what they teach is to look at the description

beautiful mod, A waste of skin start that has insane late-game potential with double-dipping mutations+cybernetics

nugget mode engage

2meirl4meirl
Thank you for this lovely mod!

Worthless waste of space? Finally, a Genotype for me!

i've been looking for a hard mode - tyvm!

@Emong very intentional, you can still unlock it by learning wayfaring, but the "you were taught nothing" extends to not knowing how to make a campfire

Not sure if this is intentional but don't get the Make Camp ability on character creation

@Lekoda I wish I could take credit for that but it's like 80% mephril's work, I just changed the wizard hat to be more of a hood and changed the position of the arm

Sprite work is awesome man. You are very talented!