Second that, seems like an oversight. There's also obligation and perpetual hooks in the system.

I have a strong hook on me Liege but this decision needs a weak hook. It'd be nice if it was modified to be a weak or strong hook thanks!

thank fucking god

@Secuter
If the option to refuse is added, the decision would make no sense because why would anyone accept their vassal becoming independent without any cost? Both the AI and the player would always choose "No," which is the most logical option. The idea of not having a way to refuse is to balance the game and penalize players who expand too quickly through conquests, without worrying about the culture and religion of the regions they conquer, since that’s one of the requirements.

This game constantly lacks meaningful interactions and decisions. I don't think this mods helps in that regard if you cannot say "no". Like, this is the peaceful way of trying to go independent. But your liege should be able to say no with some prestige loss for you.

I think the liege should be able to say no, but you still become independent without a war. In exchange your liege gains strong claims over your land instead.

AI with traits such as ambitious or disloyal are more likely to take the decision

@Xherdos IA still has to meet the requirements to make the decision, so if you are negligent in taking territories and leaving them abandoned without concern for culture or faith, then yes.

Eh so basically the AI could say "HAHA F'you i just leave and you cannot do anything against!" When they pick the Decision

Also, AI and Player cant deny it and start a war, you have the vanilla "faction" option for that

@finallyciv "Custom game rule to enable/disable ai, enabled by default"
for the other stuff, not to hard to add, ill look into it

Does the AI use it? Maybe you could add the requirement of having a hook on your liege… Can I deny the demand leading to a war? Does it lead to stress on different personalities?

@The Apex Wolf should be working now

this mod crashes my game. only using a handful of other mods that shouldnt have any compatibility issues.

As a player, can you deny the independence bid? Say for example when you have a weaker military on paper but that's because it's the "billion-prowess god of a knight and three levymen" sort of small army. Looks fun but I want to bully my vassals to death if they actually try it.

Thank you very much! 😉😉
Now it's a 💣 bomb 💥 😜

@alegdansk updated

Yes, you should enable it, thank you 😉

@Bipedleek not at the moment, but i could add a game rule to enable/disable it.

Does the Ai use this against the Player/other ai? That would be neat I think

Nice

@kalanyr I forgot to add it to the description, but it is already implemented.

It might be worth considering giving you a Truce against your liege (ie you can't go to war with them without penalties) even if they don't have a particularly high Opinion of you (giving the requirement that you have more military and don't particularly want a war it seems kinda sensible to give the liege a bit of assurance that you won't immediately declare war on them ).

Could just move it up towards an Alliance with improved opinion, eg negative (your liege gets assurance you don't get anything), ( >0 , 2 way ), 60+ Alliance.

Thank you Gizee 🙂
I appreciate very much your effort to give more realism to the game avoiding cheating 🙂
In my opinion Memories should also be upgraded a bit...