Removed force march...its a big part of the mechanics, why remove it when mods should be about AI specifically?

Does AI still attack vassals of their allies, thus forcing you to chose between your ally and you vassal?

中文补充注释：这个mod啥都好，就是叛军强的跟什么玩意一样，到处被烧后到处是日天的叛军，很恶心那种，然后小派系比较吊

Before main mod

What is load order this mod? Above Radious or Under?

Same what ----> Thorkell said

Love the mod. I can deal with the early game multiple people declaring war on me (more than one) BUT NOT the rebel stacks (20units) appearing turn by turn with little notice (and I have happines buildings). For now I unsub, really hope you can toggle off the Rebel buff because the other things are really good. I was playing Hard / Vet

so does this effect ai battle behavior , the battle ai in my game seems to know the exact location of my hidden vanguard units and attacks them immediately as the battle starts. even the unspottable and stalk units

In general, the mod is not bad, but the fact that when an artificial intelligence that has declared war on you takes all its existing armies to sea and does absolutely nothing, it looks somehow stupid and not logical. I also noticed that when someone is being mixed up with a government position, no one tends to fill the vacant position. these two problems negate all the advantages of your mod.

I have testerd this mod in 3 campains now and it is great...
il realy whant to thank you fore your time and servis.....
blessed be dud.

This mod is pretty good, it's helped with factions handling diplomacy like they actually care about their borders from trespassers. But I'm noticing some weird behavior now that I'm about 50 turns in. Armies are just jumping in boats and waiting in the sea for several turns. They just sit on the sea and do nothing while enemy armies move about their territory. I'm pretty sure I saw a full stack just sit in the ocean while a minor enemy army marched past them.

For me I can't see that the AI is smarter, but the opposite - I had 3 campaigns - Hanigalbat, Rhesus, Walvetes. In all of them it was very easy to expand, the AI was doing nothing. In the first turns with Rhesus for example - Thrace is at war with a faction, forgot the name, and it has 2 armies with 7 units each. I crush 1 of them and move towards their capital. The other force, instead of going to it's city to protect it, flees in the open see.

Thanks for the hint, I might just do that.

It is really easy to do. You could download RPFM. Open the mod pack file and the db, the entry is campaign_stances_factions_junctions_tables. You just delete that entry.

Would it be possible to have a version without the forced march removed?

Hecleas can you point me which specific DB entries I can edit within your mods to make the AI a bit more suicidal even if it has no complete advantage over your forces? And if I should increase or decrease said values of the entries to make them more aggressive?



Just for my personal use, I really would appreciate if you can enlighten me on this :D

Definitely for certain tastes. As Thrace, most if not all thracian factions declared war in response to me declaring war on neighbor. Even a third party thracian faction that was at war with the faction I declared war on turned on me. This development is by far my favorite feature of the mod.

Not sure if this is compatible with Better AI Templates, I noticed during battles ~first 30 turns were massive slinger spams.

Factions definitely are dumping and using their resources, I had very little trade opportunity with other factions.

I thought the disabling forced march would be a cool feature leading to tactical decisions, but felt inverse to me (I think i'm completely too used to using forced march as an escape, and gap closer for setting armies to villages/cities. This mod at least opened my eyes to it, and happy to have given it a shot.


Some simple observations.

Thank you. Having factions on the other side of the map sending suicide stacks over and over to the complete neglect of their own local interests was gamebreaking

I haven't started the game yet, how's the base AI? Does anyone recommend starting with this mod?

Even if forced march had a huge impact on human warfare history, I must admit that it is not balanced at all in this game. So I'm pretty happy you got rid of it.

While the forced march stance admittedly is easily abused by the AI, is also an essential campaign mechanic for the player. I adore this and the rest of your mods throughout the Total War modding scene, hopefully there is a different way to eliminate AI "force march" cheese while still allowing full functionality of in-game mechanics. There is another mod that adjusts movement bonuses after sacking and razing settlements or outposts, perhaps an adjustment along these lines? Thank you.

@Hecleas I have a suggestion to fix the problem with march stance: make it requires 100% of movement to use, its avoid it exploit by AI but keep it in the game.

Am I correct in understanding that this removes ALL AI cheats/handicaps?

Great mod it rly forces the enemie to think but i have one question
Is it intended for this mod to exclude the March stance? If not pls can you help me i rly need this for my campaing as ramses

Hello, sorry for this new question but im wondering how alex zhao 's better template mod can be compatible with your mod if they both change the way how AI builts their armies?
Do the two mods combined improve the composition of AI armies?

@bodmergygax It doesn't matter, but for safety always activate my mod first in the loading order
And for the configuration of your campaign, you do as you want, it will not change anything in my mod

Hello Hecleas, i just discovered your mod a few days ago. I have two questions for you:

I have your mod and the camera battle mod, what is the load order in the launcher?

and

Do i need to change '' AI diplomatic aggressiveness '' to highest level in customize options to make your mod runs properly???

Thanks

No, they are compatible together

should i disable alex zhao's better template mod to use this one?

Update:
-I took the liberty of deleting the "double time" and "forced march" stance because like Rome 2, the AI ​​manages these stances catastrophically...
-Reduction of value judgments of colonies on the part of the AI ​​(to avoid endless sieges while the AI ​​has sufficient strength)
-Improved the value judgment of enemy forces
-To try to make things smoother, I reduced the AI's opportunism from 65% of its strength to 60%
To make things more dynamic without the AI ​​becoming suicidal in terms of movement.

-I also tried a new adjustment to always ensure that the AI ​​​​positions itself better, even less suicidal placement and movement, I try to have the best result
-Increased the priority that the AI ​​attacks forces near a recently lost region (to force the AI ​​to recover its territories and prevent it from following straight ahead like a bus)
-Big improvement on the priority of recruiting higher quality units.
The AI ​​will recruit many more elite units (finally)

I like what you propose in your mod. However, I am afraid AI will launch all factions against me, and that's not fun. I also like to see how they fight against each other, and one is becoming victorious, stronger, and large enough to become a future threat.

Of course, I don't have a problem being at war with 2-3 factions or against an alliance, as far as my allies and vassals don't quit (as they always do in vanilla) and really help to fight them.

I'm looking for a mod like yours because, with the current state of things, I always find myself fighting alone against 10-15 factions, some of them far away distant (I am not a threat to them), so their armies can appear from nowhere (crossing the entire map with no consequences) when you less expect. My allies and vassals always betray me, siding with the enemy, especially after "buying" their loyalty. It is challenging but not fun, neither realistic.

Update:
-Rebels have more units and armies.
-The rebels have better quality units.
-There is much more luck than army rogue pop.
-The rebels and army rogue will be much more threatening and present on the map.
-I made sure to force the AI ​​to always be active.
-The AI ​​never ignored passive or rebel factions.
-An adjustment has been made to the management of the AI ​​economy, the impact is minimal.
-Rebel armies will be quicker to make arbitrary attacks.
-The maximum number of a rebel group has been increased.
-Activation: When adding a horde to an existing group the number of hordes to split from the group (excluding the new horde) to use in forming a new horde group.
-Reduced the minimum number of siege engines required for rebels to make an attack.

What other mods are you playing with?

this ai didnt do sht for me

Damn amazing work. I've been playing the Total War games on and off since the first Shogun came out, and this really changes things up and makes it a different game.

(Ps. I noticed the AI was wary of Garrison forces at an outpost as well, but once it had definite superiority it went for it.)

The AI ​​does not engage in conquest activities due to the outpost garrison forces, perhaps due to the precise calculation of autoresolve

Quick question. I have not experienced the ai attacking my main settlements (the ai sieges, but odes not invade). Does your mod encourage the ai to attack main settlements?

best mod! <3

"Ai Recruits more Faction Units" mod seems to change some Values on Recruiting? Does this conflict with your mod then?

Cool Ty!
Was thinking to also Add "AI Recruits more Faction Units" and Less Native Unit Cluttering and easier high tier recruitment" Mod.

They should be compatible aswell?

@Xeqtor Yes it is fully compatible. I haven't touched these tables which touches another area of ​​AI

Also did anyone play this with 10 Army Size?

Does this mod conflict with "Bettter Ai Template" Mod? Or does this mod improved the AI Army Composition by itself?

Esta bien en el dinastyes? muchas veces siguen creando unidades de puros hacheros y arqueros.

I somehow cant retreat from battles. Also Ambush battles dont seem to trigger.

alright brother

@DeathDogma I was focusing on AI because it is the priority in my eyes.
But many other elements will arrive sooner or later

@hecleas can you please port ai bonus removed mod to dynasties?

Update:
Adjustment and correction of AI value following the last update.
The AI ​​will be even better and is almost 100% of the result I want (with the means made available I specify, I cannot revolutionize their AI, but comparing to vanilla is night and day.)