Resumption of Harpo discussion of December 21, 2024:
“When are you going to do the next upgrade? I follow Alex's LP and noticed you said that in the next upgrade maybe you will be updating many notes and chimes when the correct item is place in the puzzles. I will play again after this update.”
I'd also like to redo this dungeon after an update.

@pathom3, that is great news. Yes, I follow Alex's LPs and have looked at his Leaf's Odyssey. Not my kind of game but look's interesting. Legend of Grimrock is the only LPs that I watch on his site. Maybe it is me but the others look to old fashion of kiddish. Just my fashion but I see he has a lot of followers that like that type of game. Anyways, good to hear that you are thinking about making another mod. I know it takes a lot of work as I have started a few but don't know all the ins and outs. I may ask you some questions later on.

@harpo Yes, I do plan on making another Grimrock 2 mod but I want to figure out some stuff on my list before starting a new mod. Currently, I am making a mod for Leaf's Odyssey. Alex, the Youtuber who is playing my Grimrock 2 mod, created Leaf's Odyssey. You should check it out if you haven't already and you can catch my mod on that game when it gets released. I work full time and have a newborn baby so my life is super busy. I also don't get paid for any of this but I enjoy making games/mods in my free time just for fun and entertainment of others. I will work on making both :)

@pathom3, are thinking of ever making another mod? I hope so.

I encountered a bug when I played the game and wanted to switch character specs, but the game is no longer there.

@harpo As soon as Alex’s LP finishes (he might miss out on the Mines area and completing Dungeon of Legend…we shall see). I’m gonna transfer my files to Windows from my IMac computer. Then, it’ll be hopefully easier to add the extra stuff. If other people in the Grimrock community helped me figure out things on my list the next update would arrive faster.

When are you going to do the next upgrade? I follow Alex's LP and noticed you said that in the next upgrade maybe you will be updating many notes and chimes when the correct item is place in the puzzles. I will play again after this update.

As of this patch, no balance changes. It's open world, so it depends on where you go and what you find. One way could have a powerful Heavy Weapon early on where as another way could have something else. I eventually plan to edit items but that is still a while away.
But any party composition can win (even Farmers and Firearms). You will be anywhere from Level 18 to Level 21 by the end. And there is a town some hours into the game but you have to find it. If an area is too hard, go somewhere else. Keep all items because even rocks can be important. And save often, my mod is difficult.

I'm planning on giving this one a go soon. Regarding party compositions, are there any balance changes to skills/weapons/spells (like vanilla Firearms was pretty meh) or are there specific skills/magic that is extremely good to have specifically for the mod?

Your screenshots are funny to me because there are so many enemies and I did not put those in lol. The only screen shot that looked somewhat normal was Shadow Dragon because I did put a Spider spawner in that room. Yeah, I love chess so I wanted to put a chess puzzle in my mod. I'm glad you liked it. Congrats on beating Dungeon of Legend!

Yeah, I'm not sure why there are so many more enemies, it looks extremely hard lol.

Also, i apologies if i do something to the mod, i really not sure what did i do. Like, I finished a map like in september and i got fired up so i donwload this one too after. welp, House of hardarbar, the only diference, that i need to download from Nexus, bc the size i was too much for workshop...
But, not sure how this happen.

Oh! btw, i like the chess puzzle, was fun! hard to intuite how it work, but after that, completly understandable what to do.

oh... i am not sure, tbh the only mod i use is more marks on the map and using custome portraits.
Maybe of having others maps intalled? like Hardarbar that it used model from grimrock 1?
About the enemies, there are not too strong, i am playing on normal and my party is almost level 19 and beat it dungeon legend.
Also, some screenshot curious, like:
-in the shadow dragon... there was no dragon attacking, and the first time enter, all the space on that room are filled with spider. (maybe part of the duplicates and spawning) https://prnt.sc/PgMbVqLQqNSN
-Same for the dragon on oblivion: https://prnt.sc/CAM2cGZXVSzQ
but.... he was in another place: https://prnt.sc/CAM2cGZXVSzQ above in the cross section with the mimics.
-Watching other playthroughs... there isn't any mommies, zombies and Wormbound.... no? https://prnt.sc/PGHJOP4bFx7g bc it was filled too. (Also, i saw some mommies falling above to enter the water.

First of all, the final fight has no Herder from Grimrock 1 or Fungus Plant in it.
Second, there are no duplicates of any enemies in the final fight.
Third, the text you got "a feeling of intense pressure..." is way before the fight even starts.
Fourth, all the enemies in the final fight are in forcefields that do not open until you step on pressure plate that locks you into the fight and I don't see the boss health bar at the top.
I'm not sure how that happened unless you applied other mods to my mod. The only thing I can think for you to do is get a Wizard's Virge and kill all the enemies with the ability.

Ok, after I tried to enter 5 times to the , in this part https://prnt.sc/L7E5N1S7ohib
i will send you the 5 message of crash
https://prnt.sc/THmtJCbTBxrM
https://prnt.sc/VgQr_oILclBb
so many enemies: https://prnt.sc/f3UCzFrEnW7L
https://prnt.sc/O3AHKguH0Iuo

Have you tried multiple times? When does it crash on the Rooftop?

oh no.
i start playing this map on september... mmm.. what can i do?

You might be on an old version. The new version should work for both fights.

Hi, emmmmi im trying enter the final fight in the rooftop, and wow:
every square with every enemies appears and a lots of golem! , but there is a thing, every time i tried to enter that zone, after the message of "this is it, the fate of the world", the game crash. like.... https://prnt.sc/UIz8ViN7LbFP or https://prnt.sc/cqih9Q8sS_dS

Hi again, i think i need one power gem more to enter PAT castle, i explore part of the dungeon of legend. And recently i found the shadow dragon fight.... but, it crashed on the fight.
I press on the 4 plates around the room, then goes straight foward to the ice attack and after pressing the second plate, i got the error https://prnt.sc/vhuxxtGHJnDv

any idea?

In the Tomb, in Trial of Earth, you need to throw something heavy from the NW corner to land on pressure plate.
In Trial of Water, the answer comes from the friendly people in Valley of Storms. Go talk with them. Legend of who?
Abyss and Mines come after Tomb.
Everything else you mentioned is optional secrets.

Also there are some secrets that i am still trying to figure like if any had any hint: There are some chest i don't know how to open te fence in the Trial of water, the west of the maze in the forest, the valley of storm before the bridge, and the south of the volcano. Of course there are some secrets, just i am keep thinking what to do.
There is a puzzle in the volcano that you summon a fireball, awesome, but it has a second fence and no combination on the plate generate any magic other than the fireball from the left!!!
The word riddles on the prision 2 are HARD, i mean.... the west one are anagrams and the east are a missing letter in any position?
Looking the skull key with the hint of the "the skull nose of death" and the Clue n°2 of the treasure hunting.

I think i got stuck.
After trying diffrent places and looking how to progress i got this:

About progress: Stuck in the Tomb bc, I don't get the trial of earth, you can get access to the handle and the button, but not the plate, and sadly i killed the ogre with poison.
And I belive that enter the abyss or the mine is later on the game.
Possible softlock: I think that you can get stuck in the PAT castle entrance, there is a chest that you can dig, but if dig it when you are next to the tree wall, you can't get out. I mean, i haven't tried it bc i almost do that.

That's pretty funny actually.

Speaking of Happy, if he is at the N-W end (03-01), he is on the Oblivion return square and is crushed by our return. So much the worse for him. (traduit du français par MS office)

I mean, sometimes, i got hit in the desert, forest and beach. Most commonly in the desert.
In the forest, sometime i got pushed and damged by nothing. The beach is you a little damage, and in the desert sometime the damage is so big that kill the mage.
An example, I killed all the bugs and birds in the desert, and before opening the serpent door, and all the party with full heal, the battlemage (with 80 hp) suddenly died with an earthquake. So, i auick load and another character recived the blow, with less damage.
That's another thing, i don't get, how scale the damage by the earthquake, bc that battlemage has more protection than others and recived more damage by the earthqukes. Or it just and rng unblockable?

The only way to kill Happy is to attack him. But who would do such a mean thing?
There are small earthquakes on the beach that deal damage.

Hi, question, i think it's no possible to kill Happy, i mean, clicking at the west lever don't do anything. Or at least, it's not clickable. The east lever it active, but the west don't.
The rest, it is really fun
Oh and before, sometime there are some random damage in diferent palces, sometime one of the party got kill by nothing.... or a earthquake.... it is an earthquake in the game?

@Dreadlock If you click the Youtube link on this page, part 1 will explain how to get the mod to appear in your custom dungeon list.

Hi, I can not get the mod to appear in custom dungeon. Am I doing something wrong ?

Congratulations on beating it! And I am glad you enjoyed it. Thank you for playing it and giving your feedback. Once the Youtube playthrough is over, I will post a 100% Secret Guide/Walkthrough.

1/2 - This imaginative dungeon with its many different levels must have been a long time in the making. The scenery is meticulous and it's riddled with puzzles. There are battles of varying levels, some of them difficult. I wouldn't recommend it for beginners. It will take up a lot of your leisure time. One regret: the solving of certain secrets/treasures is too complex. Thanks to the designer. I'll probably play it again, especially if there's an update (sorry, but I haven't awarded any rewards, as I'm playing with a version other than Steam).

2/2 - Example: there are too many different combinations for the N-E wall opening in “Valley of Storms” or the killer chests (Pure soul in “Edge of...”) that I couldn't solve. - Result: 133/150 secrets, 11/15 treasures, 22/21 epic items, I spotted 7 secrets I couldn't solve. I didn't spot the other secrets/treasures.

To Forge Item: Find recipe, then place 2 required items on specific forge. Easy as that.

Has anyone been able to forge anything? Can not figure it out with no instructions. I am guessing that I need to forge the hammer to get the one secret lava zone?

@Comminges, yes, I mentioned that earlier that a sound would be nice for the puzzles. I have still not figured out the storm puzzle.

Note: You should have added a 'play sound' when an item is placed in its correct location, as sometimes the number of possibilities is very large, as when solving the N-E puzzle in Valley of Storms (I have, if correct, 2 possibilities for Swimming, several for Poor Man's Food, 3 for Military Bombardment). This will, perhaps, take some interest away from the games, but it will avoid a tedious search for location possibilities.
I'll rate your dungeon soon,
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I did see a dragon on the Rooftop level, but it's “THE TRUE FINAL BATTLE!!!”, so there's no indication that it's the sky dragon to continue the puzzle - Which dragon does NOT have any area - ? Once in the area, there's no going back. Where not to enter, assuming it's the sky dragon. Secrets : 125, treasures : 11, Epic : 18)

Sky Dragon is on the roof. Congrats on defeating the Fire Dragon.
If you have any more questions let me know.
Don't forget to if you enjoyed the mod

Figured it out and killed the dragon.

There is a dragon that can be seen in the Oblivion level but I did not find the secret to get into that section. I have so call finished the mod but still going around to find some more of the secrets.

I don't think I've seen the Sky Dragon, I'm near the end and I've visited all the levels. Where is this dragon? I'll try to understand the killer chests and find the missing secrets and treasures (I have school level english and it's sometimes hard to solve the riddles). Thank you for your help.

@Orace, glad you got the mod to work.

@pathom3, could that be a problem from the update? I know most of us did that fall with no problem but with the older version. Just a thought.

@Orace You need to use a rope in that spot.

Hi pathom3 i just started the mod, i also checked all the posts here to see if somone had incurred the same problem but it seems i'm the only one...
I just found the lever that opens the pit in S-E part of prison, the problem is that when i drop down it i'm stuck below "facing the ground". Can't move or turn and there are many enemies around attacking me. What's wrong?

Once you get to the final gold key selection room in Home, look for a secret invisible button on wall. There is a note that hints at this. This will open up the east wall.

Home : Shouldn't the 10 items to be placed on the altars in the north of Home open up the east wall of the north room next to the stairs leading to Beach of... (traduit du français par Deep)
Les 10 articles à placer sur les autels du nord de Home ne devrait-il pas ouvrir le mur Est de la salle nord à côtés des escaliers menant à Beach of…

He will find what he finds and be happy with it. As long as he is enjoying it, that it all I care about. He never goes for 100% completion.

Sometimes Alex goes a little to fast and doesn't look around enough. Maybe I think that or some of us because we have found the things that he is overlooking?

A newcomer to "The Legend of PAT Remake".
First of all, this game seems to me to be particularly difficult for riddles/puzzles especially when his mother tongue is not English (I only have a school level) – see Merged, Beard, Bean, Bears from Prison of Horrors Floor 2 for example.
On the other hand, I have found that we can take back the pickaxes and bombs used by taking them from the side. – Traduit du français par Microsoft Word