I'm probably not gonna be adding new features to this mod, at least for the foreseeable future, but I will fix it if an update breaks it or something (which is incredibly unlikely). It is a cool idea though c:

Maybe you have stopped supporting this mod but its a great idea. Would love it if the option was added to replace confederations with vassals? There is another mod that does that specific thing but it has not been updated yet to the latest patch and does not work sadly.

I tested a bit with your mod and it seems to work but I just tested a little.

Ahh, np! Have fun :)

My bad, it was maybe a error on my side, since our exchange and just a Steam/Mod Manager restart, and new campaign seems to work! Sorry for loss of time, with a lot of time on Mod Manager to make work big modlist I think to become a lttle bit crazy x)
I use your mod with "Equal faction potential" and "No Handycap for minor faction" and all of this make IEE+LCCP campaigns lovely! <3

Hi! Are you definitely sure it's this mod causing a crash? It should be compatible with everything and is super unlikely to ever crash. I'd appreciate any info you have though so I can look into it when I have time! Also turning on script logging and sending me the script log when it crashes could also help a lot too! You could send it here if you want, you could also send it to me on discord, I am @erosennin on there. Thanks c:

Hello @Ero-sennin!
I want to say thank you for your mod, it's an indispensable now!
But I have a problem, since this mod make CTD with my modlist, I have make a little list of mods who potentially conflict with yours, maybe this can help or you can confirm incompatibilities, maybe is possible to exchange not here for clear your comment section?

thanks c:

cool mod! Award given

Also yeah, don't use both together cus we are both doing similar things c:

Remove bordergore compared to this has much looser restrictions on which factions will trade so you will probably end up with more single owner provinces earlier.

This mod, while it does eventually want single owner provinces, it doesn't do it as aggressively and focuses more on the factors a human player might consider when trading a region.

Overall I think this mod focuses a lot more on the actual trading of the region and tries to simulate some smart decision making whereas remove bordergore is focusing more on making single owner provinces, basically doing exactly what it's name suggests!

@Ero-sennin

Forgive me for the very blunt question but is your mod just an all around better version of Remove BorderGORE mod ? There would be no point to use both correct ?

I don't think the ai has access to that so no unfortunately

Will this allow Bretonnia to confederate the dukedoms via tech research?

thank you!! yes it will work for custom factions and IEE. should work with every mod c:

love this mod! it keeps the whole game from getting monocolour after turn 60. Though i have to ask, does this work for custom factions and IEE?

Understood, Thank you very much

just had a look at the description for that mod, the confederation by defeating the faction leader like greenskins should still work fine cus it still works for greenskins with this mod active. this mod should just disable any diplomatic confederations

@Ero-sennin

Thank you for this mod.

Question: If the only confederation for AI that I wanted to allow was from Allegiance of the Damned mod, which allows chaos factions to confederate eachother by defeating eachothers' faction leader, how would I go about that while I have this mod active?

ty ! I'll try this out asap

try disabling the trading using the mct while in the main menu, it should carry the setting across as long as you are loading a save before you added this mod!

Great mod! I wanted to use this with "Remove Bordergore" in my existing campaign, however I can't disable the trade feature of your mod like suggested because the feature is locked. What do ? ^^'

Thank you very much c:

yes! can confirmed, I tried playing it with the Hecleas AI mod overhaul thing, works like a charm. Fr fr it added a different layer of complexity and just makes playing the game so fresh, really great mod, thank you!

This will not conflict with any mod! The exception being Remove Bordergore as we do similar things so you may get weird results. This mod doesn't actually touch or affect any actual ai decision making, it is purely scripted and, very simply, it is basically putting each region through multiple checks and then if it passes them all, it will trade that region. Its more of a simulated decision making

so far this mod is so interesting and has raving reviews! currently i'm using Hecleas' AI overhaul, do you think it will conflict with this mod?

thank you c:

Absolute game changer, thank you

thanks!

Awesome, thanks a bunch! Also, just from the description this is a masterclass mod! Well done.

This mod should work for every patch cus the functions I use from the game are generally extremely common and widely used so it's highly unlikely a patch would ever break this mod

Will this mod work through patches or does it require updates every patch?

thanks c:

super cool mod, I like it a lot and it pleases my brain quite a bit more than normal warhammer AI :)

Sorry for this. Other mod caused this bug.

please dont spread misinformation. this mod doesnt touch ai declaring war at all. it will not affect it in any capacity. also please read the description, the ai wont trade unless it has positive relations on top of many other requirements

With this mod AI DO NOT DECLARE WAR after turn 90 or so.
Cause even stupid AI thinks that to buy territory is better idea than to hire armies and send them to war...

Tested in Rifts Campaign. Played as Cathay, blue Orks and nurgle, bird monogod faction had more than 8 towns and more than -200 relations with their "good" neighbours (ogres, red - flag cathay), and no war was declared.

Could u make that script which allows to buy provinces works if only factions have a POSITIVE relations with each others (more than zero)?

I think you're on the right track with those ideas. Let's say it's a work in progress and I'll be keeping an eye out for future changes. While it's been a fresh take on the game to play without confederations, I think I'll disable it for my next campaign to allow poor Franz and Gelt to live a bit longer :D

always open to more suggestions though

thanks for the feedback! yeah disabling diplomatic confederation for ai entirely is just like a simple catch all solution to wanting to see more minor factions. things i do have planned for the mod are later game confederations because no matter what, sometimes a faction could still just be left on a single settlement, especially if using more faction mods making some areas crowded so in those cases the smaller faction would be able to be confederated by a larger faction. i do also plan to include an option to only disallow confederations between major factions which probably would help a lot of the points you raise. the region trading chance i could definitely bump up to 100% since there are pretty specific restrictions in place, the numbers and turns that i set the default for this mod are like half guesswork half testing cus campaigns can vary wildly, especially with how different each persons modlist will be which makes a big impact to what factions will and wont survive sometimes

Another thing which I was kind of disappointed in was the very little region trading that was going on. It's one of the major points of the mod, but it turned out to be so little in actual play. I think the conditions are far too restrictive and need to be relaxed, on both percentages and which factions are allowed to trade.

I feel like taking away confederation for these factions should come with a sort of compensation. Like stronger ties, that lead to faster alliances, or something. Or maybe the approach needs to be re-thought and confederation enabled with restrictions rather than globally disabled. Or maybe just disable confederating major factions, but leave it enable for the minors.

All right, so I've played 3 full campaigns with this mod (Changeling, Ostankya and N'kari) and I have some mixed thoughts on it. The only AI mod that I'm using is AI Improvements (https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3166309670) which is relatively lightweight and deals only with "evaluation criteria for diplomatic treaties and wars".

First off, I really do like the fact that factions play a bigger role than before, moreso than races, and we get to see quite a few live past the point they'd be confederated previously.

My reservations stem from the fact that some factions are inherently better at surviving and thriving on their own (Skaven, Greenskins, Dark Elves, WoC, Ogres), while others are suited for confederation and it's one of their most potent tools (Empire, Kislev, Dwarfs). Neither Empire or Kislev actually survived past 30-40 turns in any of my campaigns, with the Dwarfs being a bit lucky in one of them, but certainly not thriving.

Thanks, was looking for one that didn't need MCT due to some issues when using both SFO and MCT

@TorgueUser
There is a mod which already does that here: https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2854770773
just untick the disable ai confederation in the mct settings for this mod and use the above mod

@TheFlame8
its only the financial boost atm, wasnt 100% sure what sorta compensation i should give them

Is there any gain for the faction that loses the region at all besides the small financial boost? For example, if we as the player trade away a region, we usually gain a lot. What makes this worth it for the faction losing the region? I really love this mod concept, just curious.

Is it possible to have the confederation part only affect the same faction as the player?
This is mostly for the SFO brett confederation buffs since if another faction confederates a minor faction first you don't get the bonus

Alright! Thanks a lot!

yeah!

Thanks for the reply, I think I got it.
So the next time I want to use this mod without MCT, on a new campaign, I need to use RPFM, and set :
(enableNoConfeds)option:set_default_value(false) (in ErynnDivideAndConfer_MCTSettings.lua)

local enable_no_confeds = false --mct (in ErynnDivideAndConfer.lua)

Those 2 setting would do the work, right?

Unfortunately if you change an MCT setting, then MCT has to stay enabled for that setting to stay. You can enable confederations the same way I described below but it won't have any effect during a campaign, I can't like re-enable confederations for factions since there are just lots of things to account for