i just did, thank you very much it was very insightful

@VanLabyrinth - have you looked at https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/workshop/filedetails/?id=3354754263 yet? I don't know if it fixes the stupid Contact changes, but he has done a major overhaul to the G-menu...
Personally, i don;t have the patience to keep correcting Keens dumb shit.

im trying to add crypods and medical rooms to the survival kit, and it dose work but i also want to remove the original crypod and medical room groups, but i have no idea how keen has all their crap set up in the first place, just wondering if you can spread any insite

hoping this will get updated for the new blocks added in the signal update cuz keen still dosent know how to come up with a good scroll order lol

Can the beam blocks be reorganized as well? They follow the same weird order as the armor blocks.

@LeeTheFlea - IKR? I merely asked him (as a comment in one of his own mods) how to go about it... he coulda done what most other modders do and either deleted my question or sent me a link to the tutorial on the subject... nooo, the man steps up and outta his way to do it for me...

avaness for the win!

Thanks, m8! best birthday gift ever!

Done. Here is your plugin hub file: https://github.com/sepluginloader/PluginHub/blob/main/Plugins/Mods/SensibleScrolling.xml

If anyone knows how to turn this into a plugin loader capable mod, let me know. That way you can use it on servers that haven't loaded it...

THIS HAVE BEEN DRIVING ME CRAZY FOR TOO LONG

Thank you sir. Take my points!

Well, at least you're not the ONLY one that's crazy...

oh thank gods im not crazy on this

It's just too bad that I can't 3D model, cuz I have at least a hundred more ideas, but most of them need Blender skillz...

I just made this mod a few days ago, LOL. Except I made minor changes to the other groups as well. Similar story. It's always been something in the back of my mind that I knew how to mod but hadn't gotten around to. When I heard Splitsie's gripe about it during RVs, I said "You know what? Enough of this nonsense." Good on you mate for your punctuality. It's no wonder it made the front page, haha.

oh, and @Oblivion2012 - I would, but I have given up on being on other peoples' Discords, especially the more popular content creators.

Ya know, I would but this way I can see who actually reads previous comments to see if they really are the first person to notice this issue. (<- why does Steam have such a limited, crappy emote selection?)

It's all good, Patrick.

Sorry, I had no way to know it had been mentioned several times already. It might be worth adding a note to the description then, since people keep reporting it.

3rd time: I know, but since I didn't edit any of the group code, only positions of blocks within the goups, I have no idea why it decided to get itself a new zip code down in south argentina..

Just fyi, the heavy armor version of the 2x1x1 blocks has moved positions in the "all blocks" view for the g-menu. It is no longer with the original armor block sections and is now on the row with Safe Zones (I think?).

has anyone @Splitsie this mod?

Thank you all, again, for the support. I haven't been feeling well for the majority of this past week (Emphysema does not get along well with high temps and high humidity), so I haven't done much of anything with your, or my, ideas.

I am of a thought that, perhaps, this mod might goad Keen into giving their block groups and scrolling a good, hard look-see. Many of the groupings (o2/h2 generator NOT with the tanks or vents?) are plain wasteful and most of the scrolls could use a touch of common sense.

If you folks can manage to keep this mod on the front page for a couple of weeks, I am pretty sure Keen will notice it, and all of the feedback you kind folks have given. That might just be enough for them to actually take action.

I am not lying when I say it actually took me longer to make this thumbnail than it did to make AND test this mod.

Nice work. I agree with Mindlessmrawedome, I don't know what they were thinking with the current order as it is, nor why it hasn't been fixed in the most obvious way possible.

THANK YOU
I do not know who came up with the scrolling order for space engineers but it has never made sense to me and I'm shocked they haven't fixed it given all their time to do so. Thank you for doing their work.

This NEEDS to be vanilla!!! Thank you!

YES FINALLY, SOMEONE DID IT!, THANK YOU!!!!!!

thank you finally someone understands logic the amount of nonsense keen adds to the game is aggravating

Relating to what BellPepper said, I still think the inverted half-slope block should be with the other 2x1 slopes and not the 2x1 corners.

@Prof.BellPepper - I was having this thought thread (along with about 15 other ones) this weekend and will look into it as time permits.

I was also thinking of turning this into a series of mini-mods. There are a number of block sets that could use a little common sense applied to the scrolling (ie: why does it go from survival kit to full assembler when that is not the way progression flows?). by making each block group it's own mini-mod, people can pick-n-choose which they like - I mean, not everyone likes rocky road ice cream, even if they like most of the contents.

Are you also able to change which blocks are in scroll-groups? I've been thinking for a long time that some blocks would be easier to use if they were in different groups, and it seems like what you did here should make that possible

A work of genius

@Soumagnei - did you happen to read the comments below your own?

Awesome mod
Found a small bug
The Heavy Armor Corner Tip 2x1x1 is all the way down in the Store selection in G menu

This bothered me so much (but not enough to fix it obviously, lol), fantastic!

Thank you for this!

Yay, front page! Thank you to everyone that has voted.

Thank's again for the kind words.

Seriously, tho, this is such an easy fix, I am surprised it hadn't already been done. It took all of 5 minutes to create. Took a good deal longer to test, since the game takes forever to boot into an empty world...

Still no idea why the heavy corners moved to the bottom of the G-menu, tho...

never going to play without this now, perfect QoL mod. the vanilla order has never made sense

SAME!
Thank you.

*based on the modded lineup, not the original

@Kaizoe - Actually, if you look at the image/thumbnail of this mod, the first 3 are proper, based on how they connect, the 4th one is backwards.

@LarsonStole not the model, the icon in the G menu.

@Kaizoe - That has to do with the model itself, which there is nothing anyone (but Keen) can do about. I mean, if it is that frustrating, you could turn on the auto-rotate function :shrug:

The way Keen has done the vanilla models, to make them deformable, is that each side is it's own model, then coding puts them together into the shape. If you have ever noticed, modded blocks do not deform like the Keen blocks.

@LarsonStole Keen made the light inverted tip go right to left instead of left to right like the other icons. It has been the wrong way for years!
But maybe the should all point to the left instead of to the right, it would just make more sense when scrolling through them!

@Acouthyt - My words, exactly, when I heard Splitsie complain about it on stream

Oh god, thank you. It wasn't just me after all.

@black_dragon1230 - Yeah, the vanilla scroll just doesn't make sense. The blocks aren't in order either way you work. It's almost as if they laid them out that way just to annoy people.

@LeeSpork - Aside from having the same accident, on occasion, putting a single block into it's own group would not appeal to a lot of people. The 2x1x1 corner layout has definitely annoyed folks and I just got tired of the transition mirrors being 3 blocks apart.

@Kaizoe - Not sure what you mean. Both light and heavy line up the sensible way in my mod. I have no idea why the 2x1x1 heavy corner has moved to be down by the economy blocks in the G-menu, however, as I didn't mess with that stuff.

I was going to complain about it a few years ago, but never got around to it.
The light inverted corner tip is also the wrong way in the menu, but the heavy is right! Or is it that the other ones are wrong but the inverted tip corner is right?

This might be more controversial a change, but another way I wished was different was if the full cube was not in a group at all so you don't have to worry about accidentally placing a wedge. The wedges that it is grouped with could be combined into the group with the rounded blocks.

Thank you so much, I was thinking the same way that Keen should have fixed it.