@Hidalgo : for southern realms all caravans starts from Tilea. Conquer the city to make caravans safe. Other races' caravans work the same way. You will have the same issue as dwarf faction if Karaz a Karak will be captured by Skarsnik.

For some reason im playing as Estalia but my caravans always spawn in Tilea capital, its controlled by a enemy faction and they instantly rally out and attack it after i pass turn. I tested it in 2 diferent campaing and sending it to diferent directions, the caravan always spawn in Tilea. Im forced to use cheats and teleport it to Magritta before end turn or lose the caravan.

I can second willynuyaz' report. It really is an odd one.

my bug is strange one. this mod actives old world mod even though i don't active old world mod,

Hey does anybody know if the crash associated with seabound caravans and Immortal Empires expanded has been dealt with?

@Street_man : fixed

Gashnagia does not seem to have Caravans in the old realms campaign is this intentional? Because the rest of TEB have caravans, only gashnagia's caravan is absent.

@Sigmareitz : I think this bug is possible only if you missed one of required mods. Double check the mods in the launcher. I also reduced the connections between the mods. Restart the Steam to make sure that mods were updated for you

I can't even run the game using this mod: the load order I've set is:

- Catapth's Southern Realm
- Mixer Unlocker
- Caravan Mod

I've changed the order for Mixer and Caravan too, but I keep having the same crashing error pop up when running the game:

"The following mods cause a crash to the Database:
twill_old_world_caravans_teb.pack

The first database record is
owc_teb_caravan_factions_owcteb_caravan_nobles_ow in table
campaign_group_rituals_tables
and pack file twill_old_world_caravans_teb.pack"

Could anybody have any idea about how to make the game run without crashing? Thanks in advance! :)

Hello !
My friend and I encountered an issue trying to start caravan of the old world and this addon with Cataph's Southern Realms in multiplayer
Whatever we do we get "incompatible version", we narrowed it down to 3 mods: Southern Realms, Mixu unlocker and caravan of the old world
We also tried the mods separatly to test but we dont get the error, it's just those 3 mods together
Do you have an idea why could this happen ?

@Madi92 : yes, Mixer is required for Cataph's Southern Realms and this mod adds caravans only for Cataph's factions

Do i still need MIXER if i only want this for AI?

@FilthyGreg : yes

works with sfo?

@Oooops : yes, this is intended

Excellent work, thank you, and happy to help the things I like get better :D

Btw I just realized, EIC/Catrazza doesn't get those "Caravan deals" rest of TEB gets for completing them. Is this a concious choice with them being on the Cathayan network?
I found them interesting to play around with, but I'm happy enough the way it is. :)

@Oooops : thank you for detailed bug report. It was the issue with ChaosRobie's cathayan caravan network. I fixed it. Fix should work with older save games

I made a fresh install getting back game with https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3081800026 included around 4 days before I commented here last. Other mods were ofc Cataph's TEB, mixu's mixer, your 3 related mods, kislev included and two trait (extended/unlimited) mods I'm mostly confident that is unrelated.

Found time to test today, refreshing TOW and removing the trait stuff. Adding console commands for expedient testing. Same result when sending caravan from Giant's rock to Barak Varr: gets stuck sitting outside Aldium (in the river if that's relevant, though I can happily reroute it north or west). It took the southern route via Pigbarter and Valya's Sorrow.

I have a save and a screenshot if that would help you in any way figuring out what the problem is. And I'll test other things that you might find useful. :)

@Oooops : what version of Old World so you use? The latest one (with badlands rework) or some old one? I tried to make this mod compatible with both of them and it works for me. Probably the mod didn't update for you? Try to restart the steam to make sure of this

Playing as EIC on the TOW map, my caravans to Barak Varr get stuck on the last step. I'm guessing theres not enough room for it to land there?

thank is good

@Oogie Boogie, @Decimus : restart the steam if you still have a crash. I fixed this issue yesterday. It looks like this mod did not updated for you

looks like recent update is causing a crash

"Crash report

The following mods cause a crash to the Database:
twill_old_world_caravans_teb.pack

The first invalid database record is
teb_caravan_skill_innate_ogres10wc_effect_disable_province_recruitment in table character_skill_level_to_effects_junctions_tables and pack file twill_old_world_caravans_teb.pack

The application will terminate now."

hello since today's update caravan old is ok, kislev is ok, trad fr(other modder) is ok, south is not ok crash in lauch (sorry for my english)

is it possible to add the unique objects for Southern Realms as well?

@Herls : i was tired. This update requires more work than usual.

Saw your other two mods were updated today but this one isn't. Have you just not had time to do it yet or does it not need an update? No big deal I was just curious is all, please don't take it as me complaining.

@Kami : make sure that required mods are active

Causing crash on startup it seems

@BluebirdSialis : fixed

This mod cause crash after use Warhammer 3 when using Plutocracy (Press Request Button) Test by get wizard while playing new world colonies. The only mod I use I mixu unlocker, TEB, Caravan mod and this mod

@FrenzyBee : you should add this submod and then everything will work

Is this mod compatible with The Old World Mod?

@sigmars_disciple
Apologies for not seeing your comment. To clarify, I was dividing up my mod list after the recent update to determine what was causing hard crashes on launch.
I narrowed it down to both this and the kislev addon, as both of them were causing hard crashes on launch individually(although the base caravan mod was still functional).

I tested it again with the base essential mod list of these mods and their dependencies after this new hotfix; for whatever reason, it is now working for me.

Apologies if it was seen as misleading, I can guarantee that it was occurring without other any mods, but I'm not sure what changed.

-> Your conflict, whatever it is, as you haven't described the problem but just provided a link that doesn't work, is caused by smth else, 100%. No prob, it happens. But you'll have to be much more specific than "conflicts with" when you describe a problem ;)

@Eterfate & everybody else
When reporting issues, be aware that most mods ONLY WORK WITH VANILLA, not other mods. As Eterfate uses this submod, I gather from that he seems to play a "modded faction" (from Cataph's mod) and this will cause all kinds of mods, prob over 95% of them, to not work out of the gate with your faction.

This submod here and TTC are absolute EXCEPTIONS to the rule as they support another MOD and are NOT MADE FOR VANILLA (I guess due to greatness and popularity of Cataph's mod)... Hope that helps <3

Hey @Eterfate, not a specialist but I'm pretty sure I can help regardless.
1. Very unlikely there's a conflict. This works. If anything, the main mod will conflict, never the submod
2. I clicked the link with the image but can't get there. Use a different URL or "mask" the URL so whoever wants to click just needs to press 2 keys then it's a working URL for them
3. There is no mod of that name. There's a very popular one called "Tabletop Caps" by Drunk Flamingo (TTC) and it 100% does NOT conflict with Caravans of the Old World. TEB by Cataph supports TTC, has it built in.

@TWilliam Similar to the Kislev addon submod - see my comments there unless you wanna miss me flexing my math muscles -, I'd be curious how much % of extra end turn time/performance impact adding this submod to the main mod should roughly cause (just based on the amount of factions that get caravans). Thanks <3

@linkfire12 I haven't gotten around to verifying this, but am replying regardless as my will reply will probably help people much more as the last comment than if it stayed yours:

I heavily doubt that this was (well, maybe it was for a bit but then it's certainly resolved) an issue as you described. I believe this submod is 100% WORKING WITH 5.0.3, also with 200+ other "5.0 ready" mods....

@linkfire12 It would be nice if you could test again, come back and clarify here. You sounded like you know what you're doing when you reported, so you'll also understand you can't just leave your comment here without clarifying.... :) Thanks, bro. Appreciated <3

It appears and this and the Kislev addon hard crash the game as of the latest hotfix, without any mods other than their dependency present.

Thanks for such a wonderful mod! I found a problem and will just share it here.
“Caravans of the Old World - Southern Realms addon” and “Tabletops” conflict with each other:
https://i.imgur.com/S30R4su.png

Maybe this will save someone time.

Correct, by bad, I use Geforce now, and the mod updated as you uploaded it, so was displayign a tick but not actually having updated. thanks

Johnny 5 : restart the Steam to make sure that it was updated for you

Thanks so much for quick update! have a nice labour day

This one needs an update - game crashes on startup.
"The following mods cause a crash to the Database: twill_old_world_caravans_teb.pack

The first invalid database record is 125125 in table mercenary_pool_to_groups_junctions_tables and pack file twill_old_world_caravans_teb.pack"

@Thirox_ITH : done

@TWilliam can you add support for the Principality of Luccini ?
It's from the Heroes of Legend mod, it adds a new faction for TEB.

Will there be an update post ToD?

Does this work with the Old World version of the Caravans mod?

https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/workshop/filedetails/discussion/2927296206/3763355849151124694/

i think is this

@Rich Homie Ginger : can you post the link on compatibility patch that you use?