Hi so when I made that comment that was using your full collection it didn't all work together. When I just inserted the origional 5 mods of TROM/TUP it worked.

If I only use the collection of [TROM + TUP] REQUIRED + RECOMMENDED list with your version of TROM+TUP. I also find this works.

So I am deducing its something incompatible with the additional mods on your list.

Incidentally I also play with my own list of mods that all seemed compatible with original TROM+TUP, but not with yours.

Also I am using The Runcher to launch the game.

Thanks for your quick response.

@aetherparadox

This collection mostly uses core TROM + TUP. I haven't used this collection in awhile so your feedback is helpful.

Are you just removing part 5 and placing original TROM + TUP Part 5 in your load order and then it works?

Hello I really appreciate how well you updated things in the change log. But I cannot get your collection to play. Regular TROM+TUP is playing fine. But I can't get yours and cant figure out why

@Mr.MM

It is expected to crash on 184 or the eight princes start dates. TUP + TROM is only designed with years 190 & 194 in mind.

They have said that year 200 should work fine as well although just have caution as I dont know if the original authors tested 200 very much. Hope that helps and sorry that the mod is not 184 compatible.

Hi this is really nice mod, but when I played with year 184 (earliest year) with Tao Qian i crashed to desktop after loading to start campaign

I haven't tried with another heroes, but I think it played fine with Cao Cao on year 194

Everyone, this collection has been edited to what it used to be from 2024. TROM + TUP parts 1-4 from the original author was added back in, and the original Gathering Heroes mod is also back. The ai wont execute mod was also added back in. I am keeping this collection more original and creating a new collection with my no generic generals and portrait updates.

Hello, I've only added 1 extra mod which was one that added more civilians to the maps with settlements or the little farm areas. I'm not sure if that would be the culprit of causing a crash outside battles, but I've disabled it nonetheless. It's a campaign as Liu Bei, and so far on a specific siege battle it causes a crash, once when starting a duel with a specific character and another just randomly.

@Biggus Dickus sorry to hear that. I just recently made it to turn 80 on a Liu Chong campaign with no issue. Very rarely it would crash when clicking on an officer upgrade but i actually didn't even have that happen in the recent campaign.

Do you have an extra mods by chance? Im releasing huge updates today on about 10 mods and only found 1 potential conflict.

On some of the mods i have posted, they used other mods as a template so TROM + TUP for example, should work fine but they are quite large mods. Ill see if i can find anything

It seems to be crashing my game around turn 56-57 either if I check my court, or in a battle randomly

hello, i've followed the list order and have some issue:
1. Some character missing potrait and character is invisible. (e.g dong peishan, dong min, gan mei and etc)
2. The unique character nicknames also missing, for more accurate terms is have been replaced. ( e.g. gan mei "Empress Zhaolie" to "dy tiger_of_jiandon + adjective" ) . Can i know if TROM did not yet updated this or any mods issue that i don't know.

Kindly please help, much appreciated.

It's alright thanks for all the work! Love the mod list so far it's really fun :3

@tru0ngsupertinh Im really sorry to hear that. I might take it off this list if that's the case. I do have to go back and review if i edited any tables that another mod like TUP + TROM. There are some mods on this list that i have altered but just haven't uploaded to steam due to me not being the original author so perhaps i should go back and toggle the original authors mod on and try this out. Ill reply back and edit when ive done so

I don't know why but trying your newest mod list crashes the game at start xD Removing the new mod fixes it

Does TROM HP and damage addon work in this collection? Just curious because I prefer my generals OP as vanilla...I know...I know.

Ill have to take a look at some of the mods you use as I have been interested in adding more as long as the game remains stable!

As far as the trade agreement issue, the only issue i have seen is non bug related where the Liu Hong mechanic mod prevents me from having a decent number of avail agreements.

This mod list should work on 190, 194, and while there has not been much testing on 200, it should be fine on 200. This is per researching the mod pages and the TUP/TROM pages are the big one which states it is mostly intended for 190 or 194 but, should work fine on 200.

You could try MOH or EP but, do so at your own risk as i think the mod authors did say crashes occured.

Lastly, with unit sizes i play on Extreme constantly but my rig is like a NASA machine. I recommend probably just playing on ultra settings to avoid issues or lag but Extreme has worked fine for the most part.

I had a weird bug with Trade Agreements always showing as not possible despite having adjacent capitals (after few restarts it now works fine everywhere) and Party's Influences covering screen with text and effects but it fixed itself after 10 turns of play; possibly there were some more that I didn't spot due to not knowing how it was supposed to look like.
Now both mentioned bugs are not present and I didnt have any more issues.

Personally I disabled some of death prevention mods as I prefer my games to be more unpredictable and I am also trying to add following mods:
- TUP OP items remover addon
- Recruited Characters Can Use Original Units
- Less Enclave for AI
- Better Ground Effects
- Trom Forced Event Trigger
- Followers Icon
- Ambush Reinforcement Time Reduce
- Ink selection marker
- Historical Titles

As for hunting for information:
- is only 190 year compatible with mod list or are two adjacent ones also supported? (I assume no)
- are unit sizes larger than 'large' fine?

@Milosz0pl

I appreciate your comment and im glad you like it. I am only responsible for 2-3 mods on this list but putting the collection together certainly took a decent amount of research to get a good load order down.

If you run into any issues since this is a large mod list, feel free to report back. I have had very close to no issues for awhile now on this collection so i hope it does well :)

I recently started playing Three kingdoms as I travel through before-warhammer total war titles and despite difficulties at the start in understanding - this collection enhanced mine experience by a lot.

Oh really? As the politcal effects of bureaucrats in game is different than the value defined in the mod. leading me to suspect that the mod clashes with TROM.

I didn't face any problems necessarily but one did seem to overwrite the other. I took out the Liu Hong mechanic mod and instead... kept the power and politics mod as its own. I think that should be the way to go to be honest.

@Lotus Eater 23
Did you face any problems within the power and politics mod, in which the political effects that come form the mods utilize the original MoH Liu Hong value instead of the once with the values modified by the mods?

@Lyrithus I love this collection and im glad you do too! My only complaint is generals are still too OP due to the gold items but other than that, it makes for really challenging but fun play throughs :)

I have been away from pc gaming for about a month so might look into the game again!

Amazing collection, and DETAILED NOTES to changes in the collection due to testing, what a guy. THANK YOU! :)

@lucagilbertion4 Thanks for promoting my collection :)

I try to stick with updates too but since the game and mod updates have died down, this is a collection that is pretty close to permanent. We will see though and ill keep checking :)

Good collection, you can customize it on your own to make the game more difficult or easier, I recommend this to anyone looking to spice up their playthrough.