this is gud map

your map is ass and you really should killbind IRL

Y'all buffed this map WAY too much, Blu has such a big advantage throughout the entire map. The map was already bad but you just made it worse. Also it still looks like hot garbage, random props placed around like someone was desperately trying to salvage something (You probably were)

please buff blue's ability to push last if you're going to make changes. That new balcony behind the bridge on red side is some serious BS, and you have to walk along two incredibly long sightlines from blue to get there, and now that red can easily rotate into your ONE safe area, now you're forced to play the point either extremely long, or extremely aggressive. I can't believe you made the one part about this map I disliked so much worse that I never want to touch it again.

more like crashworks

Crashed the game for me and my friend, and seemingly even the casual server that ran it. Does TF2 provide crash logs to help with this?

Ok, Minor things accumulating :D If you nothing anything out of the ordinary, post a snapshot or link here and I´ll try to address it. Or hit me with a PM. Love, eerieone

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You´re right, some shots are a bit outdated, forgot to update that detail. Superficial enough to ignore. Just glad it runs fine and the update is finally out :) Should enough minor things accumulate, I might do another pass. But for the love of all that is good, I hope I don´t need to :D

Were photos used on loading screen updated? Areas shown on them look now completely different.

Looks like everything works fine. Again thanks for your work.

@Baul Thank you for the kind words :)
I´ve put in a lot of time into the new version and hope to calm some of the valid criticism, no use in fueling the fire by reacting too harshly. The new version has been submitted last month and it´s all in Valve´s hands for when and if it sees the light of day.

Hey man, I just wanna say I think it's really cool how you respond to the negative feedback here. So many other creators like ICS, the creators of Venice, or a lot of the newer mappers on TF2Maps get so pissy whenever someone's voices their dislike for one of their creations - so the fact you can admit this map had some mistakes, respond politely to some pretty overly-harsh criticism here, and even go back and fix it even though it's a decade-old says a lot about your character.

Also I've seen the new version of this map and it looks such a big improvement, hoping to see an official release pushed out to Valve soon :)

Hey, Dr Lalve map

@ieatchildren: You´ll be glad to hear that I´m pushing a coarse update to valve this holiday, maybe you´ll reconsider. In any case, thank you for the feedback.

@eerieone: yeah, nah. I'm not sure what your thought process was, but every other point is just one big sniper sightline. You go from having corridors to fight through, to playing in an open field. Regardless on whether or not this map is a *"slightly outdated classic"*, it doesn't make up for it being an unpleasant experience every time. Capture points go from undefendable to unbreakable. Please reconsider map design as a hobby, or atleast polish your map with coarse, gritty sandpaper before pushing them onto the rest of us.

good map

@chocymilkaddict: Cutting down the exploitative sightlines, which don´t put the sniper at much risk, shorten the lanes. Reducing fog etc.
There will still be plenty room for sniping, but it shouldn´t dominate the map

um what were you thinking with these sniper sightlines???

No spy flank routes. Some classes dont have vertical mobility.

Basically pl_dustbowl. Massively favors Demo, Soldier, and Sniper spam. Looks nice, plays terribly unless you play one of said classes.

This is a classic map, but it's unfortunate that it was initially broken due to lack of upkeep.

Can’t believe they added a map last updated in 2009. It’s a fun map but very clearly a good bit outdated

I like aspects of it but it's just too outdated. This map would really benefit from a few tweaks here and there.

an OG Classic, with my favorite Environment (the Alpine environment) my favorite map of the update

@ZincWolfWarrior This map is so old that the thing at the end of it used to be gold and not Australium. It actually PREDATES Australium being introduced into TF2's lore. I think it was one of the first, if not the actual first, payload maps to use the Alpine environment.

Honestly, my favorite map of the update. Also nice to see it's finally been added since apparently it's really old, so that's cool

Congratulations, man! This was my favorite map back in 2009, on the old Couch Athletics server. It's been a long time coming, but it's well deserved! I can't wait until I can get back and play it again!

it took mora than a decade but it finally added

Hoping now that the bugs are fixed people will give this map another chance and see how solid it is. One of my favorites of the update

Really like this map. Does this map take place anywhere specifically? If it does I'm guessing somewhere in texas but I don't really know

-rep to the update team that vetted this map.

i really hate the red phlog bs exploit

You forgot to set the team parameter of blu_respawn_room_01. This lets red enter the first blu spawn room.

Your probably right, but I would not be surprised if you get more people complaining about this especially because it was a server wide complaint. if this map starts to grow on me I'll try to remember to give you some complements and maybe buy a map stamp. My comment was VERY reactionary and honestly for a map made more then a decade ago my probably giving it to much flak.

What was your reaction receiving Valve' offer for your map you made 14 years ago?

A: Found the Error, will parse it to valve.
B: @Pogo // There´s a good number of routes bypassing sniper avenues or pushing up to them. Just get to know the map.

Hi just got this game in casual and this map seems to have a lot of fans. From my first game, I am not one of them. first the things I liked: that big slope hill section behind first red spawn is really cool. I also liked the money pit that gives the map it's name. Now the things I don't like: obviously first blu spawn is broken. you seem to be aware of this so I pray this gets fixed tomorrow or hell even today would be great. However my other problem cant be easily fixed: this map is sniper hell IT'S WUTVILLE levels of bad. This one massive flaw makes me really want this map to not be added to causal year-round, or if it does I will purposely uncue for it. I'm truly sorry that if I come off as rude or mean, it's not your fault valve chose this map but my pretty upset this map was chosen over extinction. Best of luck, Pogo

Never had the problem before. It´s an odd one. Just doublechecked, the logic in hammer is just fine. Will look into it. :)

Probably just a missclick, "blu_respawn_room_01" went from "Blue" team to "Any", which makes it so the func_respawnroomvisualizer allows any team in.

14 years later and now finally official, well deserved

@Flpstrike
Huh? That's odd. Guess Valve faild the compression?

WE ARE LIVE :D ////////// Thank you all for the kind words!

ITS HAPPENING

Congratulations! It took 14 years since the last update, but it finally made it in!

map seems to miss navmesh

please get in the 2023 summer update

I've been playing this map for years and it's insanity that it never got an official release. One of the most polished PL experiences out there.

it your time to shine cashworks might get in

Praying this gets added, its so damn nostalgic. Going as far back as 2009

I hope this one gets added during the summer update. It should've been added years ago!