@delmain you can install rimmsqol and easily edit the recon armor to occupy only middle! It's the best mod for fine tuning other mods :)

indescribably based mod

1.6?

Awesome mod, just what i need

Great mod. Patch for Royal Arsenal Ranseur Armor please

i would love a version of this that made it middle layer

Thanks for the super-fast update too!

Awesome, yeah, I was stoked when I found out about it too. I used it to set up a FactionDef to inherit from Tribe while overriding my xenotype and memes onto it. It's super cool!

@Delmain I wasn't aware of you could use arguments with nodes like that. I have updated the mod with improved compatibility. Thank you for this teaching.

@McLets Phoenix armor is not of the Recon armor class.

It would mean that any modded items that use ParentName="ApparelArmorReconBase" would automatically become Skin layer apparel, but at least they wouldn't break.

@Jeriko06 RE: your comment from Feb of last year. It actually is possible to just patch the base, and then overload Locust armor the way your want it without it inheriting. You could change your Locust patch to this:

<!-- Locust Armor -->
<Operation Class="PatchOperationAdd">
<xpath>Defs/ThingDef[defName="Apparel_ArmorLocust"]/apparel</xpath>
<value>
<layers Inherit="False">
<li>Middle</li>
<li>Shell</li>
</layers>
</value>
</Operation>

Inherit="False" in the <layers> element tells it no to inherit any the value for <layers> from it's parent.

Thanks for the update!!

What about Phoenix armor?

1.5 please

1.5?

@Snowmech: I was just about to ask this very question. I gotta have Mercer's Nano Suit.

Is there a mod option to make it a middle layer, so the armor can work with skin suits?

@stormarmy with this mod, the only armor you can wear over recon is flak jackets. Does that still make this mod op? Yes.

Play as conservatively as you wish.

Being a skin layer would you not be able to put another armour over the top of it?
Sounds OP if you can or does the mod prevent it somehow?

Would PatchOperationReplace on the 'base' work? That seems like what you're looking for - and then afterwards you'd only need the 1 patch to "revert" locust back to using full layers. (besides the spritesheet patches)

@Videogames No. When you do PatchOperationAdd on a Def, the properties you add will overlap (not replace) whatever properties that Def inherited from its parent.

So if I set base to skin/middle and then set locust armor to middle/outer via PatchOperationAdd, locust armor will then attain all three layers: skin/middle/outer.

Maybe there's something obvious i'm not seeing, but wouldn't it make a bit more sense compatibility-wise to do a replacement operation on the base. (So layers won't break when other mods try to reference it) - and then just patch locust armor back to it's own layer setting?

There must be good reason you went through the trouble of deleting layers from the parent def and then patching them back in for the individual armor & prestige version?

How can I do this for armor from Rimsenal? The first one, without upgradings?

i second jimothy, this is beautiful but if we could get a second version that would be amazing!

Thanks ! We needed this.

This might be a weird idea but what if a mod added multiple versions of recon armour at different layers, and then crafting recipes for switching regular recon armour into being usable for any layer and back again?
Y'know, for armour stat trolling purposes.

@Victor looks like that mod utilizes the recon armor defs. By nature my mod and that mod will conflict.

Conflicts with https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2250706299 causing Config error in Apparel_ArmorLocustPrestige: Apparel_ArmorLocustPrestige apparel has no layers.

@SAUCE__GODD I've never used CE. Does it do anything weird with base armors?

Is it compatible?

@SAUCE__GODD What about it?

CE?

Thanks! That fixed it

@Dr. Mantis updated, errors should be fixed now.

Great idea! Love the mod, but just wanted to report that I'm having the same duplicate XML error as @comrade Pliskin.

I'm sorry, but I just wanted to use recon armor with caster gear from Vanilla Psycasts, don't give much of a Eff about balance.

If anything maybe.. you could make a separate armor instead of a replacement?

@ Lt. Pariah you will need Royalty for the prestige variant. If you use this mod without Royalty, you may get error messages on start-up, but that's about it - the default recon variant should still work.

Do I need royalty to use this? Cause I thought Recon armour didn't need DLC

Awesome mod, thank you!

@Comrade Pliskin Hmm, strange. Not sure what could be causing this but I can definitely check it out later today and see if I can duplicate the errors.

finnaly Fashion rim
just gotta wait for a Medieval Overhaul version where my fancy moral guide can have armor and style

Bro really out here complaining about balance in a single player game nobody is forcing your to use dusters and recon lmao

Great mod, just have one quick question. On start-up I get a duplicate XML error for recon, prestige recon and locus. Doesn't seem to be causing problems but the error persists on a fresh install where this is the only mod. Any idea whats causing the error?

I didn't say there's anything wrong with your mod, if you don't care that wearing outer apparel over recon armor can result in essentially obsoleting marine armor entirely then that's your decision. I certainly use some overpowered mods myself.

But I feel many people probably just assume that things like dusters provide negligible armor when that isn't true, and if they want to stick close to vanilla balance they should be aware of what they're installing and how it can completely shift balance to make recon armor objectively superior to marine armor rather than a tradeoff. I'm merely pointing out that the fact you can't do this in vanilla isn't an oversight, its a conscious balance decision, and that this mod is more than cosmetic.

@Pudding Deity gee, thanks... >.>

Just want to point this out for people who think this mod would be harmless and not affect balance much: outer apparel is actually VERY powerful, far more so than skin layer apparel.

A normal quality set of recon armor and a normal quality devilstrand duster will provide superior protection compared to same quality marine armor. If that marine armor is worn over a devilstrand shirt and pants then the upper body protection will be the same, except for heat which recon + duster protects from better, or WORSE on the lower body.

Obviously mod the game however you like, just be aware that combining recon armor with outer apparel can be a bit overpowered, and if that bothers you maybe reconsider using this.

based mod

I always wish for Recon to just be a Spacer version of Flak Vest, but I guess this will work too

awesome, I love recon armour, now i can wear cool capes with them too

Thank you for making thin skin/middle