Hmm interesting suggestion, but the point of thralls is really to give a reliable blood source for the vampires, so I think that making the thralls also need hemogen would just be a net drain on the supply.

ohh ok, and also small suggestion for enthrallment ability, maybe make it a given for anyone with bloodfeeder/hemogenic? so modded vampires also get the ability, would be cool to use this mod with big and small - vampires and the undead

and maybe for balance it should have a hemogen cost to apply, and maybe like a small rework making those with the thrall trait need hemogen upkeep?

basically thralls might get something like a 'hemogenic enthrallment' gene that works like hemogen drain and gives them a hemogen meter, but they cant feed on human blood like vampires and instead rely on being fed by a vampire

Yeah, I haven't gotten to the enthrallment ability yet. If you also have Ideology, I do have a ritual to add the trait to a pawn. Very thematic - dark ritual to enthrall.

However, even without Ideology and the other mod, there IS a gene that adds the trait. It can spawn in traders, but you can also harvest it from a pawn you capture and then make it part of a xenotype.

I just tested this mod and frankly it's really nice, the only problem is the impossibility for the player to add this trait to a colony pawn (especially for slaves ;) ) with this possibility this mod would be really perfect and exactly what I was looking for.

is the enthrallment ability also implemented now?

I have a working update for this! However, I seem to be having issues updating it on the workshop. I am getting no information from the error so I'll probably just try again later

@TheAsternak I am working through my 1.6 updates :)

I love this mod more than I should and really hope it gets a 1.6 update.

did you manage to make an enthrall ability?

Awesome! :-) I was planning on approximating thralldom in my next vampire campaign with the Mindbreak psycast from Vanilla Psycasts Expanded, but your approach feels more thematic overall (although I reserve the option to combine both for the restlessness and mood buffs). Anyway, thanks for sharing this mod as it is already :-).

@Sumatris That would be pretty cool, I will look into that. It should be doable using the Implant Xenogerm ability as a base

Could we maybe get an active sanguophage ability with a cooldown that lets them turn a target into a thrall? I think that would make a good fit both thematically and mechanically.

did not noitce that, thanks!

@WarKittyKat Apologies for that! I think the best way to handle that would be for me to make an update that checks for that mod and then obeys those rules.

While we wait for the individual toggle, would there be a way to turn off autofeeding on thralls in general? It looks like if this mod and sanguophage feed relationships are both installed, this mod's autofeed on thralls overrides the other mod's individual toggles. It came up for me because I have a pawn that's brain damaged, and feeding on her kills her from the consciousness reduction. But I can't seem to get my bloodfeeders to not go for her if they're nearby.

@Christophe Ben'wah if you're also using Ideology, I did make a Ritual utilizing my Custom Ritual Framework mod that lets you perform a Ritual to turn a pawn into a thrall: https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2883966406

This fits for running a medieval, dark magic style playthrough. But for those who don't have Ideology, I suppose there could be an ability given to Sanguophages that lets them enthrall someone. That should be doable anyway

excuse me, i KNOW there isn't a way right now, i meant to say is it possible to implement that into the mod

for medieval playthroughs that don't utilize the geneengineering of normal runs, is there a way to make a pawn a thrall? similar to making one a sanguophage via implantation?

Thank you, I'm glad you're enjoying it!

you wellcome, amigo, your mod is must-have for vampire colony, and i having a lot of fun playing it c:

Yep, non-breaking error, and thank you for the retexture!

sorry everyone who installed retexture mod and started playtroughs with it. I deleted the mod, so you will encounter one time red error, but it's totaly safe, not gonna break your game

yo, im stupid to not asking to update it directly here. It's not much, but i hope everyone gonna like the texture . If i manage to make it look it even better i gonna contact you
@Eclipse thanks, hehe

@Eclipse your retexture is uploaded!

@Eclipse oh man thank you for that! I am not sure when I'll be able to implement it but I will definitely update that ASAP

Please

https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3010047748&searchtext=

@Three-legged Wolf very happy to hear that! I will probably not have as much time to work on mods this month

@these people Comfirmed ^^. Unsubbing and re-subbing to the your mod fixed the issue. I just witnessed one of my sanguophages feed on a sleeping thrall. Thanks for the quick fix ;)

@Three-legged Wolf Definitely let me know if redownloading the mod doesn't fix it. I'll have to take another look

@these people Somehow the issue isn't fixed on my end. I reactivated this mod in my LO and had the same issue as before with a sleeping thrall. I'll try redownloading the mod and cross my fingers.

@these people Glad I could help in the bugfixing :)

@Three-legged Wolf - It was because the thralls were sleeping! And turned out to be a pretty easy fix once I found that out.

The thralls being asleep is a good piece of information to know, I can see if I can try to recreate it with that. Thanks!

@these people I thank you for checking it out. I can say that when it happened the thralls were sleeping, so maybe that's the reason, but it could be unrelated. I have indeed a pretty big modpack too, so there might be a conflict somewhere.

@Three-legged Wolf I think I've seen similar things happening when other mods that change pawn behavior are installed, but that doesn't seem to necessarily be the case here. It could be that the thrall isn't reachable. I'll look into it more later though, there might be something that can be done to fix it.

For some reason my sanguophages can't feed on my sanguothralls automatically. When they go looking for hemogen it sends a neverending cascade of red errors saying the sanguophage pawn tried finding 10 jobs per tick. The result is that they just freeze in place and don't do anything until I draft them up to go eat some hemogen. Any help would be appreciated.

Log Here [gist.github.com]

Married shouldn't, but slave might! I will hopefully get a chance to test on that some more this week sometime. Thank you!

Several, but as for ones that affect vampires, I'm running tastyhemo and sanguophage: the overhaul.

Mostly affects hemogen, but tastyhemo also makes them gain food bar when they feed. I can't try without right now as I'll be afk for a week

Also, the one thrall in my colony is a slave, and is married. Not sure if that has an effect on it?

@Pazik Are you running any other mods with it? And how many vampires and thralls do you have? I've seen that error from mods like PuAH but usually it doesn't cause them to stand around, so definitely something to look into.

This mod causes my vampires to just stand there, and an error in dev mode says they attempt to start ten jobs in one tick to find a vampire thrall.

Yeah but he is an absolute machine. I did make the board and add it - I don't have a lot for mods right now, it's my other projects that are lining up.

Mlie already has one, but seriously, it would be amazing for the Hellsing Mod to be supported by this. I'll ask its author about support on his end.

@TurtleShroom - Maybe, but my to-do list is growing faster than it is getting completed haha. I may need a Trello board just for Rimworld mods

Hello! This is a great Mod, but I'd really like to see you expand it to support the best vampire Mod ever made:

https://www.gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2834801420

It already comes with its own blood feeding system, and I'd love to see the Vampire Thrall system extended to that, too! Do you think that you could do that? I would really appreciate it!

@Totally a Barrel Technically no, but you won't be able to feed on them anymore (and Sanguophages should not attempt to autonomously feed on them either, but I may have to double-check that)

I'm curious, if you use the Gene to put the trait on a pawn, will it be supressed/replaced if the person becomes a vamp themselves?

Nice mod! I was wondering myself if masochists should gain a buff from being fed on, but this works a treat :)

@WarKittyKat sorry I haven't gotten that in yet! I'm having some trouble with the best way to do that, but a specific request always spurs my re-interest in a project so thank you for the comment.

Ah came here to ask about a toggle and looks like you're already working on it! I have a prison full of thralls and then a couple colony thralls and I'm noticing the sanguophages automatically prefer the colony thralls when I'd rather it be the other way around.