Ultra but no, my bad. With only your mod active it's all good. Probably running into a conflict with another VFX mod that updated recently since this modlist was fine until recently.

With only this mod active which level of VFX are your settings at and which impacts to you notice them on? Melee, Ranged etc?

Is it me or do some dust impacts look like grey squares/blobs with the current version?

After more testing many battles are completely flicker free no matter how much blood there is, but the flickering does still appear every one in seven or so battles (when stress testing with 10 zombie units in the desert). No idea what would cause it to come and go like that as its the same skirmish map with the same settings. The time of day does change however so there could be a specific lighting anomaly that causes it for some reason. Very odd.

I'm still seeing blood flickers right now, though TBH I'm kinda stress-testing it in custom battle. That said it still does happen in actual battle.

Funnily enough I've paired your mod with vahndaar's nearly-2 years un-updated Buckets O' Blood mod and together it's probably the best looking blood has been in Total War.

You could try removing these files using Rusted File Pack Manager (https://github.com/Frodo45127/rpfm/releases/tag/v4.6.2) :

Open the pack file ny finding 'Smirks Blood' in your workshop files. The path will be something like: 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\workshop\content\*long number*\'. and delete the XML files:
wh_dlc02_blood_splatter_ground.xml
and
wh_dlc02_lib_blood_decals.xml

This would return the length that the blood stays on the ground back to default times but cut down the variety in the blood splats. It will save you FPS however.

If you want the original tomato splat ground decal textures you'd need to delete the 'decals' folder as well.

@Grimm

Hi Brother,

What do I need to do if I only want to have the blood spurts and retain the vanilla blood decals.

Thank you in advance!

HOW TO CHANGE HOW LONG THE GROUND BLOOD STAYS
Find 'Smirks Blood' in your workshop files. The path will be something like: 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\workshop\content\*long number*\'.

Open the mod with Rusted PackFile Manager and navigate to the VFX folder to find the file: 'wh_dlc02_lib_blood_decals.xml'.

The file has three sections of entry. The first set of entries at the TOP, separated by their name (e.g: <emitter type="continuous_mesh" id="decal_blood_puddle">), have three entries each within them called ‘lifetime’ followed by “quality” 0, 1, or 2 (e.g: <ranged_property name="LifeTime" quality="0" min="1800.00" max="2000.00"/>).

Change the “min” and “max” settings to the seconds amount you want the decals to fade between. Quality 0 being the highest setting and quality 2 being the lowest. I would just change them all to the same number of seconds as it is for your use only.

bro pls can you make a tutorial for change how long the ground blood stays pls pls

Thanks! if I look at my mods and adjust the top ordered one that edits that file it should work?

Yes they can. I have done this myself by editing the 'particle_effects' and 'particle_impact' tables. I haven't included it in the mod as it would make the mod much less compatible with other mods that alter these tables... like additional units etc.

Looks much much better than the vanilla blood circles.
Can the files be modded so arrows and bullets cause less ground blood spots to spawn while keep melee and explosions levels intact? High rof/low damage units tend to cause big smears under only lightly damaged enemy formations.

Ok, thx

I think so. Try it and find out.

Is this mod compatible with "Dismemberment Overhaul: Ultimate All-In-One"?

I believe the 'blood stains' slider in the settings affects this. Other than that I think it might be hardcoded. They get bloody from GIVING damage as well as taking it. So if a healthy unit has killed four guys he's going to be covered in the sauce even though he hasn't gotten a scratch.

Is there any way to tone down how much blood appears on units using rpfm? I feel like it can be a bit over kill for how much damage they actually take sometimes :)

No thanks necessary. Of course it would help if I knew what your question was...
What was it? If you ask a reasonable question in a reasonable way, and I see it, I will try to answer it.

thanks for not answering my question.

I have mine set at Blood Particle Scale 100% and Blood Stain Scale at 50%.

Hi, do you have a recommended blood settings when using this mod?

Alright sounds good, thanks once again man I appreciate it and your taking the time to check things out

I can't replicate what I'm seeing in your video. It COULD be specific to that particular battle map (I have only tried it with the skirmish snowing maps) or a conflict with another mod you might be using.

Hey Grimm,

I edited the values as you outlined but I still face performance drops (down to 30 fps). I noticed something strange too which I recorded here showing blood spatters flickering:

https://youtu.be/qsqjnfbpDDU

which made me wonder if this is something thats affecting the performance? I dont know enough about modding and textures, but wonder if it has anything to do with snow as well

Thanks again for the mod!

The way the decals overlap instead of being replaced makes them really add to the FPS hit if you don't have a good GPU or want very high FPS (which I don't for this type of game. 30-60 is just fine for me).

You could try removing these files:
Open the pack file as in the description above and delete the XML files:
wh_dlc02_blood_splatter_ground.xml
and
wh_dlc02_lib_blood_decals.xml

This would return the length that the blood stays on the ground back to default 'short' times. And it would cut down the amount of variety in the blood splats. BUT it will save you FPS.

Hi Grimm great mod and thanks for maintaining! I had a question since I'm using your mod in conjunction with others, and I've noticed with your mod, fps drops significantly, and when I remove blood particles entirely the framerate jumps back to 100fps. By changing the time spent, would that really affect the performance? Or is it affected by the fact your mod's textures etc. are just so good that the game can't handle? OR is it the overlaid textures (as I think you mentioned in one of your previous comments)?

I tried playing aroudn wtih the blood sliders but they didn't really make any change for me, so I wanted to ask what you suggest I could try to keep this and increase performance. I can't see mysefl going back to vanilla blood after using this!

If you open the mod file as explained in the description above and delete the folder 'Common Textures' and resave then the blood ON units will return to default. There is also the slider for'Blood Stain Scale' in the graphics options which affects the size of the blood on units.

Thank you for this amazing mod. Is there a way to tone down the blood on units or remove it?

Many thanks to @Radious for sharing. That sorted it out. Updated.

Make sure no file has a uppercase in its name, its causing ctd after this "quality" update....

while working through process of elimination, this mod causing freeze in startup after 6.1.

Looking forward to update :)

Will try this, thanks!

@Josh in Da Ph: if you open the pack file as in the description above and delete the XML files:
wh_dlc02_blood_splatter_ground.xml
and
wh_dlc02_lib_blood_decals.xml
it should reset the blood decals on the floor back to vanilla times and variety number. You may still get a few replacement decals but they should revert to vanilla values which were set to hide the shoddy code they are forced to work with :)

Finally, there are no fountains of blood in all directions, great mod.

That's a shame.. and you're right I don't remember this being an issue in WH2 and I downloaded blood mods for that game too.

I think a compromise would be if you can release a version that has the blood impact effects and stains on the units but without the blood puddles on the ground. Or if you can guide me how to do it in Rusted Pack Manager if it's too much to ask :)

surprised this wasn't fixed by now, has anyone even tried to report it on the ca forums yet?

It's a CA decal implementation issue. It isn't present in the other games including WH2 and Dynasties. Although 3 kingdoms had a funky time with decals as well.

@Josh in Da Ph blood z-fighting with itself/the ground is a problem with all blood mods in general and nobody is sure if it's a ca problem or an unavoidable issue with modding blood itself

Awesome mod btw, but I noticed flickering with the blood puddles on the ground. Is there a way for me to fix this?

As an alternative, can you teach me how to revert the blood puddles to vanilla? I noticed the vanilla puddles don't flicker, but I still like the other features of the mod, like the new blood sprays and stain on the units.

changed the lifetime to 3 seconds but theyre still staying for a long time

@TeamWorkOP
I think so:
I created blood puffs for the average hit rather than the explosion in a paint factory that happens by default.

I figured out why, thanks for the suggestion. Turns out smirks blood along with "better alliance" both had 1 in their load order spot by default. I changed smirks blood to 24 (as for some reason that number was skipped in my mod list) and now it works fine

It SHOULD be fine but if you are getting odd things happening try switching the mods places in the mod order load.

Can this mod not be used with the dismemberment overhaul? I wasnt sure if that messed with the blood textures/blood vfx xmls. I see there's dismemberment in your screenshots so maybe with this mod it doesnt need the dismemberment overhaul? I tried using both but was getting weird floating artifacts spawning all over the map

Ok, I might play around with some values and see. My hope would be, as you mentioned, to make blood decals only spawn on death and dismemberment. (I'm no modder though, so this might be a mission impossible...)

I believe there is a hard coded default amount. My mod adds more variety and MAY make each instance more bloody. If you do as I instructed you SHOULD have the vanilla amount of blood decals but with a little more variety. It may be possible to limit which hits cause blood to appear on the ground, but since it is different to how it was done in WH2 I couldn't say what that is.

Thanks for the answer first of all. But the problem is not that your mod specifically is too bloody, I think that the vanilla values and ALL mods are too over the top with blood decals on the ground. I just wondered if there was a specific value that effected how much and how frequent blood pools form.

I'm not exactly sure without playing around, but I think if you go through the XML files in the VFX directory of the mod and remove the last VFX entry chunks that start with <vfx inst_name="decals" vfx_ref="wh_dlc02_lib_blood_decals' and ends with <vfx> on its own line it might reset the spawn rate back to vanilla.
DO NOT TOUCH FILES THAT START: wh_dlc02_lib

I really like this mod! But I have a question regarding the spawn rate of puddles. What value dictates the prequency of puddles that spawn on the ground? I would like to lower this number, as I don't like that the battlefield looks like a sea of blood after a while.

In summary: fewer puddles, but they stay longer. Thanks in advance!

I think so. Although I'm not sure how much.