I would like to see a Mod similar to this for the Skaven that just make them dont care about friendly Fire at all... i Hate when my Skaven slaves surround a enemy Lort and my Artilery stops firing at him because "there is something in the way" even if its just skaven slaves..

andy why did you make the obstruction 20% lower then before? and not 15% lower, when they fire 15% higher in vanilla?

does it need to be updated?

does it still work?

can you do a version that has reduced damage on friendlies or something to compensate in a balanced way

ok

tkidder, that would be cool, but I dont know if its posssible.
Myu, thats a feature
JohnFire, this changes a gamerule, it applies equally for everyone (AI or player)

Friendly get damage?

only for player?

The main problem with this mod is that while skaven do get more ruthless in firing at their own troops units like rattling guns and jezzails simply delete themselves.

Is it possible to show the friendly fire caused by your own units? In a similar way to how it shows kills, damage and damage value? I just think it would be super funny to quantify how many of your own skavenslaves you've killed with artillery with this mod as an example, lol.

AI empire are shooting their front line to pieces with this mod lol I love it. it makes the AI seem so ruthless.

does it still work?

The game just check what version number was written on the mod. It says nothing if a mod is actually compatible or incompatible to a patch. There are loads of mods that say incompatible but have worked and will continue to work fine. What breaks mods to some degree is when the game changes things that a mod also modifies. People bugging mod authors with "update please" when no update is needed is a big reason why authors disable comments or mods get abandoned/NOT updated in the few cases when they actually do need an update.

Hmmm, Maybe its just my imagination then. I installed it but it said it was out of date so I said load it anyways but the units didn't really seem to change much and were still very wonky on shooting over friendly units even when placed on a hill. I guess it could just be me though I will mess with it some more with the mod loaded to see.

This will likely never need an update, it only changes one number. I wrote this in the description.
You can open the file and have a look if you want.

I know I am kind of kicking a dead horse here, but is there a updated version of this mod anywhere or explanation on what needs to be changed in the files to do it yourself?

This would be nice to have as a toggle.

Like a "Do or die" kind of thing for when you absolutely need your ranged units to fire (without them normally deleting your frontline while there is low pressure), or as other said to run as default on in "Skaven mode".

I wish there was a way to have this be usable only by Skaven, so that Skaven could fire into their own units like on the tabletop.

Yes the change is universal, I havent noticed how it changes AI behaviour, but their units can shot (and friendly fire) exactly like yours

Does this mod affect AI?

Daverin, i don't think it is possible to make it care if a unit is expendable or not, I think you can change units "missile hit box" individually, but that would mean some incompatibility and would affect enemy and friendly fire equally, also don't think it is possible to toggle friendly fire ingame, as it is a "game rule", but mabye with some scripting, would be very cool

Salazan, agreed, but don't think thats possible, though I also think wiping out your own units is part of the fun

skaven style

The best mod would be something like this that also reduces friendly fire damage percentage by like 20-30% so you dont accidently wipe out your front line with a firing squad

Question; is it possible at all to make this a bit more sensitive to unit types? For example, I thought I read expendable made an friendly unit not care about firing into them, but I have seen fireglaives clearly deciding against shooting at enemies on the other side of orc labourers, while blunderbuss in the same area would gladly aim over goblins.

That, or, what really needs to happen is another option for it. A toggle indicating you want a ranged unit to fire regardless of friendly fire.

Thanks! I don't know how to make it work with MCT, but I might look into it, it would be cool.

Love this mod. Is it possible to make the exact amount configurable via the MCT?

No update was necessary, but updated for that sweat green checkmark. This mod will likely never need updating.

Does the mod need to be updated? Patch notes says the targeting for missile units behaves a bit differently, specifically when being obstructed by buildings or objects.

kinghamza, 1, this affects all units since its a game rule, doesn't matter if its vanilla or modded, 2, I don't know if there is a way to disable friendly fire

acv55555, don't know how to do that

Base AI, this affects AI as well

@kinghamza262 There's a mod called "No friendly damage for Radious" works for Vanilla too.

Does also effect AI?

Any chance you can make a "Return of 1.3" in full? I kinda wanna try it without the friendly fire

hello nopunctuation, cool mod. Couple of questions:
1) does this mod affect modded units?
2) would it be possible to implement a version of this mod that included no friendly fire damage?

This will still work, and likely continue to work for all furutre updates.

Thanks siddgeir!

Dramaking05, that would be more extensive, and require editing each desired unit in another table individually, and also therfore be alot more incompatible with other mods.

Dr. Bones, that is somewhat what this mod does, it tells your units to "not care" if they aim up to 20% bellow the top of friendly units. You could change it to 100%, so they never care, the "problem" is that most missiles don't pass through multiple models, so if they dont care at all youll hit only (or at least a lot more) your own units, not the enemy and your units.
But if you want to try you can change the file number from 0.85 to 0.0, feel free to publish it as well if you want.

I was wondering if this works with the current patch? I can see it wasnt updated, just wanted to ask?

Stopping by to say this is a must have mod - I think it fixes some of the weird range quirks CA implemented in WH3 I've used it for WE, Dwarves, and Greens w/ zero issues, except the grudges for wiping my own front line due to lazy positioning lol

You think you can make it where Missile units fire while moving? I hate it when at least for me an entire unit doesn't shoot at all because one d*ck head is still getting into position when everyone else could shoot

Any chance to make one where your units just don't care if they'll hit an ally or not? My Skaven not firing because they might hit some Skavenslaves breaks muh immersion. :P

but good mod.

Dark elves too mind you - not like they give a flying shit about friendly fire.

Why stop there for a skaven sub-mod and not just directly shoot through your own units to kill theirs? : One does not go half skaven.

"The Great Horned Rat recognize-knows his own own"

Ah, a mod for my modlist when I play Skaven

cool thanks for the help, i know everybody hated the changes but the one thing i hate about it all is not having a choice for both sides of the coin.

You could change the value this mod changes (projectile_friendly_fire_man_height_coefficient) from 0.8 to 1, that would reduce (but not eliminate) friendly fire and let you shoot over your own troops more easily than vanilla.

Don't know any way to eliminate friendly fire and let your units shoot regardless of obstruction.

is it possible to make one without the friendly fire, just for folks like me that like to just see units firing regardless like most other strategy games do.

Yeah, I kind of agree, but I can also see why not everyone wants to micro their ranged units so they don't friendly fire

Thanks for testing, I feel like that should've been what it was from the start

I tested it, and sort of. You will be able to stack ranged units on top of each other/other units. But they will deal friendly fire damage.

Does this make missile units fire like patch 1.3? or before the hotfix?