@Soul -
1- Basic Grenade AMod is only for basic grenades, Explosive, Anti Personnel, smoke and Flash. This is intended.

-The Plasma charge upgrade is one I'll look into, not sure there.

-Other mod added abilities, I have no idea.

Sorry reposting in one big message to make less clog of my questions/mini report

Checking the ini,it seem the grenade Amod do not add a bonus to stuff like acid/gas/fire grenades? Do I read it right? Or does it still apply bonuses charges to these too?
Edit : didn't see the desc precise what change in game,my b on that one lmao

Also ,when you upgrade HE Charge to plasma charge,the cost say "0 Elerium core,50 supplies"

And speaking of these,it seem that some abilities involving grenades don't seem to work with it,like for example "prep for entry" from proficiency class which let you throw a grenade for free work with modded grenades,but not the HE serie for some reason,dunno if its cause they can't be used by grenade launchers so they don't count as grenades? But yeah,just wondering.

Will do, thanks.

@SeveN - I've made the fix, but the next update is a while away, but there is a simple fix you can do for yourself.
Find my mod workshop files.

In XComSavageStockItems.ini, go down to-
[SavageItems.X2Ability_SavageStockItemAbilitySet]

Add the template names to these arrays:
+AllowedItemArray_GrenadeBandolier
+AllowedItemArray_AssaultAMod
+AllowedItemArray_EngineeringAModItems
+AllowedItemArray_MunitionsAModItems
+AllowedItemArray_SaboteurAModItems

@SeveN - Your issue must have slipped through the cracks. Thanks for the template names, I'm adding them to the lists now. The next patch will be compatible.

I reported issue with Assault Amod only working on T1 flashbangs some time ago and gave you the templates from [WOTC] Superior Explosives. Just making sure that Grenadier Amod will receive the same treatment in the next update right?

Here are all templates from that mod: https://pastebin.com/mRAEUf6B

I've been wearing it on both my support and offensive grenadiers and just realized it's useless once you go past T1 since double capacity bonus isn't working, so you're only gimping yourself of mobility by wearing it.

@fred101j - there is going to be a big overhaul to tech in 0.7 that fixes this issue. Items will no longer be gated behind Breakthroughs. Instead, breakthroughs will improve existing items meaning the LWOTC players will be missing out on the full power of some items, but not the items themselves. The new system will also be guaranteed to give you some of the associated stuff from each tech branch.
-More details on this in future.

Thank you, yeah I just went into config and made it supply cost only to make it more tolerable. Also is there a way to get breakthough items without research breakthroughs? (they are disabled in LWOTC)

@fred101j There will be Proving Grounds Overhaul support in future for those who prefer that kind of gameplay. Not happening yet though unless someone sends me the relevant config code.

Is there a way in the config to turn off the proving ground randomness of building powered/ plated amods? I am also using Stukov's addon so that might be part of it.

@ECHO - No problem, I find it fascinating also, though I'm no expert on the inner workings.

I increasingly like the idea of giving players a guaranteed unique. One easy thing to do would be to give a unique weapon crate for completing the Blacksite. That would be a simple change and it would be a good reason to prioritise completing that mission earlier.

@HudsonSavage

Yeah no I don’t use covert infiltration I played mostly normal-ish mods for more combat related things so I would assume that by having covert infiltration it could make it so I could get the amount I most likely should have gotten instead of just one unique weapon

Oh, and thanks for the talk about how the drops work to some degree and the XCom code, I find that stuff interesting

I can relate.

hehe restarteritis is something i am suffer from a lot myself

Well I started with 0.6 so prob like 3-5 runs,most up to FL14 (yeah I restart runs a lot when I find some cool mods that change early game too lmao)

@Soul - how many runs have you played with the Cache and crate system, say since 0.5?

Maybe he doesn't have covert infiltration,cause thats how I get mines
If he play normal style with only 1 covert it could be the reason lmao
Perso I'm fine with the current way it is

@Soul, @ECHO2879 - There it is, both of you getting completely different results. The issue is that i's a completely RNG based system. Caches and crates have a chance to be rolled, just a dice roll. Then the items themselves use a droplist system where the more entries an item has in the list, the more likely it will be to show up. The exception being the Unique weapon crates which use a deck system to reduce the chance of a player getting dupes.

The problem with pure RNG heavy systems is that you will inevitably get outliers. As you probably know XCom fudges rolls a lot to avoid situations where a player misses 15 shots in a row and has a bad time. Caches and crates have no such pity system because;
A) I'm a talentless hack who sucks at coding.
B) I want players to have to adapt their play to what they are given and I accept that there are going to be some players who get too much or too little from the system.

My intention for these uniques is that in a full play-through the player will get 2-5 of them. Maybe more in certain campaigns which have more missions eg:LWOTC. So Soul got too many, ECHO got one or two less than my ideal. I don't have enough data to go on to decide if the average is too much or too little so I leave it and wait for more reports.

So thank you both for your comments if you do another run with this mod let me know since these RNG systems can be tough to balance, I don't have enough time to play this as well as make it so feedback like this is invaluable to me.

ECHO, as for your idea of a guaranteed way to get them... if I ever get around to figuring out missions. A single POI that spawns a unique mission somewhere around month 3, with a unique weapon crate as the reward sounds cool to me.

Thank you for listening to my TED talk.

You can get a lot of boxes in the coverts and black market
I think month 5 I had like 7 boxes

is there a way to get unique weapons without having to spend a lot of time just getting thoes boxes, it seems like it takes way to long to even get just one. out of a lets say 20 hours in one playthrough i only got one of them, it being the sword. i think it could be cool if there was a guaranteed but very expensive way to get them, idk like spending 100-150 intel to get the box needed to unlock one of thoes boxes without needing god on your side

i do really like this mod tho it adds so much and i love how you can give your guys so many things with older pieces of equipment still having a lot of uses even in late game, it can just be a pain to get what you want sometimes

Thanks, they'll be in the next update.

Yeah I was thinking that might be the case. I was looking for a way to add them myself but in the end I couldn't figure out where to add them.

They're from [WOTC] Superior Explosives:

[FlashbangGrenadeMk2 X2GrenadeTemplate]
[FlashbangGrenadeMk3 X2GrenadeTemplate]

They are added by a mod. If you can get me the grenade template name, I'll add it to the list of grenades effected.

Is Assault Amod only working on T1 flashbangs? Ever since I upgraded to flashbang bombs it no longer doubles my flashbangs amount and it's unique ability doesn't work either when used(flashbangs are still turn ending).

I think it works like a deck of cards. You add some cards to the top of the deck, of course you draw those cards first. go through the deck entirely, well you then shuffle the deck and future draws will be random. I know some systems work this way, I'm guessing that hack rewards are the same. as you can imagine, the only way to alter the probability of drawing a card is to create multiple copies of it and shuffle them into the deck.

no wait, now after like, 5 regular non story mission hacks, it gave me some supplies options, and a tower gave me a mix between this mods hack bonus, and vanilla hack bonus, though I should probably ask this to make things easier, is there a config file that can alter the chance weather you get this mods hack bonus chance or a vanilla hack bonus chance?

though there is one thing I noticed, I think its only the "main mission hacks" that give something else, so like, side missions where I have to hack a crate, or a station? yea those keep giving me "mission leads" or "resistance cache's" and no regular stuff like, "reduced scan times" or "new scan location", or stuff that affects the current mission like disorient enemies or take control of a random enemy, or "give every soldier a charge of run n gun"

alright thanks, and yea I managed to get A old hack reward from the door to the captured prisoner mox mission, I'll see if more old rewards can appear anywhere else

@AmazingGameBoy -
1. Yes it's normal to get magnetic legacy items sometimes. lucky you!
2. You should still get the old hack rewards. Xcom likes to front load new content. If this persists please let me know.

almost forgot, is it normal to get a legacy magnetic cannon in those loot box things BEFORE I research magnetic weapons?

quick question since I couldn't find it anywhere in the mod description, does this mod completely replace the hacking rewards for the advent security towers? since all I found was the new modded stuff and I still like the fun little mission benefits you get from those

Try clearing configs, after that if there are no items from this mod in the engineering menu you have a problem.

Hello people !!

First off; Mr. Savage, I absolutely ADORE your mod !! A must-have in every run of mine (I DO tweak the stats a bit :P).

Question -- I thought of giving LWOTC a go, and apart from it's dependencies, I've got no other mods in my list (clean cofig generated before starting too).

But somehow I can't see the items at all. I know quite a few of them are locked behind tech progress, but on game start there always used to be a handful of em available.

Any ideas on what it could be? Would I need to do a re-install of the mod/game/windows in order to get this sorted? :P :P

Any help would be great. Nevertheless, thanks for this awesome mod dude !!

@onestrongbow GocleCD - thanks!

That is probably exactly what it could be, added tactical armory UI after this one and that's most likely what's causing the problem, thank you!

also noticed something weir in the xcomvagaestockitems.ini
we can see this

HIGHCAL_MEDCALDAM_CV=2
HIGHCAL_MEDCALDAM_MG=3
HIGHCAL_MEDCALDAM_BM=4
HIGHCAL_SMLCALDAM_CV=1
HIGHCAL_SMLCALDAM_MG=2
HIGHCAL_SMLCALDAM_BM=23
HIGHCAL_HICALAP_CV=1
HIGHCAL_HICALAP_MG=2
HIGHCAL_HICALAP_BM=3
HIGHCAL_HICALDAM_CV=3
HIGHCAL_HICALDAM_MG=4
HIGHCAL_HICALDAM_BM=6
HIGHCAL_RECOILAIM-20
HIGHCAL_RECOILWILLLOSS-1

the last two line are missing the =
shouldn't be like this ?

HIGHCAL_RECOILAIM=-20
HIGHCAL_RECOILWILLLOSS=-1

@TROLLOLOL BIRD XD - you do have community highlander right?oh yeah and tactical armory UI has caused problems for me also

Are you using Tactical Armory UI? If so, try without for a bit, see if that fixes it. This could be a few things, but it does sound like classic TacUI jank. (which can come and go, it's very strange)

Hey, I play with lwotc and quite a few others mods but I never encountered this problem before, whenever I go to equip a soldier an armour mod the game either immediately crashes or is fine for a minute and then crashes, I'm not sure if it's something on my end with a mod I'm using or if it's this mod since I haven't really added any mods that interact with armour so I just wanted to let you know

HE Charge doesn't seem to work with some abilities like breaching entry which make the next grenade a free action,is that intended or the HE Chage don't count as a grenade somehow?

There was a mistake in the config. It'll be fixed in the next update (weekend hopefully)

Haha - NO! I'll check it.

Is the perfected absolute zero suppose to do zero damage?

@Skarsatai 2.0 - Thanks for the report. - I'm tackling a patch this week for sure so I'll have a fix up by next weekend.

@BhOLa - A number of things have changed in the mod, so check engineering and your soldiers for content from this mod. The last update removed almost every free item and made you pay of it. - let me know.

hi hudson savage. about the ignition ammo. after researching the lost it was announed in the lab after successful research but it is not showing up in engineering or proving ground

Hello people !!! Quick question -- Is this compatible with LWOTC ?

I swear I remember having used it with it some 3/4 months ago, but when I re-downloaded Xcom 2 today and started a new LWOTC run with this mod, they aren't showing up.

Any help/suggestions ??


BTW; Excellent mod Mr. Savage !! :D :D

Agreed!

Damn didn't knew the other mods combat knives worked with it lmao,I thought it was only the hidden blades,maybe making it clearer in the partisan desc would be a nice touch

@gz331903 - Combat knives, Hidden Blades and LW combat knives should all be affected by the Partisan AMod. Let me know if you are sure that they aren't.
-As for the hidden blades ability text, yes this is an error. I'm going to fix it soon.