@Lotus Eater23
Yes please

...not sure i'm doing this right
can never get anything up to lvl2 and whenever i do it drops back to lvl1 next turn

@Total Warlord Hey there! Love the mod and the work that you do :)

I can really see the dedication when i dive into everything, but i want to see if i can get your approval on something.

I use TROM+TUP and used this mod to create a lite version of my own. Essentially i nerfed all the bonuses and lowered the debuffs as well. Would you be willing to allow me to upload a lite version of this mod if I link to your page and give you credit?

my brain can't handle this mod buffs/debuffs yet

as stated below, unfortunately feels overtuned, it could be an effect of another mod in conjuction but with the character experience alone my main character is level 7 on the first turn...The effects are unfortunately much too strong.

I also think it's an odd design choice for units to have increased upkeep tied to higher dynasty influence. If anything, the more centralized the military becomes the more efficient it should be an thus upkeep should decrease.

As for the increased corruption from bureaucracy, I think you should slim it down to something like +5/+10/+15/+20/+25. Lastly, the character experience bonus from Dynasty influence is crazy high. Perhaps +10% per tier would be more reasonable.

Just some suggestions. All things considered it's a fantastic mod and with just a bit of tweaking of some of the numbers I think this would be a must-have.

I agree with some of the other comments that a lite version of this mod would be quite welcome. Overall I think that many of the effects of the political system are fine but then there are a handful of things which are way overtuned imo. I think the heavy penalty to trade agreements for high bureaucracy is an odd choice. I'm not really sure it even makes sense to penalize trade agreements in that instance but since you are I think it should be less extreme (also why would higher warlord influence give trade agreements?).

Maybe instead of -1/-2/-3, etc there should be no penalty for the first 2 tiers (or even bonuses) and then it could be -1 at t3/ -2 at t4, -3 at t5. It's kind of crazy that most of the time you're just straight up penalized 3 trade slots right out the gate. On the other hand, the benefits to admin slots from warlords is likewise too high. Starting off with +3 admin slots is too strong. It should similarly be nerfed to a more reasonable amount.

Does this not work when playing as Lü Bu?

Anyone have any suggestions on reducing bureaucrat influence? It's maxed out for me, and literally every character I own (40+) is at least +2 to bureaucrats. Fired all my advisors that had large +bc influence.

I get that this is a way to balance huge empires, you get big cost debuffs from all the people you have to hire, but I'm not that big (not even duke yet).

It's enough I might try my hand at a quick rebalance mod.

Very good idea, but too harsh on buffs and debuffs. Would be great have a lite version

I would be interested in a "lite" version of the mod if you had any thought on it. My current problem, is it feel at least with Radius and a few other mods the "overwhelming" amount of buffs and debuffs being added by all 3 factions is just too much.

Thank you very much for the mod and it was cool to try out! Will def keep my eye out for if you try your hand at a lite version. One that could still have big swings from 1 - 5 and a good middle ground at 2 - 4 like this version but maybe just less overall effects so you could simply read it once or twice and have an idea. Warlords = stronger army but upset people and food, Buro = Spies and Assignments but costs lots of money, Dy = Stronger people and money but less armies" not good examples but just more simple ideas.

The mod works amazingly. I love how it affects game balance overall.

just love rly have you tryed it to say update for 1.7.2?
the mod is playable aven after lattest 1.7.2 update

can u update for 1.7.2

does dis wwork with trom?

Is this compatible with TROM?

THANKS FOR THE NEWEST UPDATE M8 now sun ce faction has the +50 points! the only thing does not seem to work is the characters that they are not providing dynasty, buracracy or warlonds influence points, just noticing :D thanks again for providing this +50 points in sun ce faction.

@ Total Warlord, trying to verify your fix. I've redownloaded this mod to refresh, and started a new Sun Ce game in 194, and no difference. It's on reckless luck itself? The tooltip doesn't show anything.

I added 50+ on the 3 influence on Sun Ce's reckless luck resource itself

Can you make a Chinese patch？

Rockstar yeah it is not fixed for sun ce's campaigh, and since that matter ,makes simply as that sun ce's campaigh unplayable with activated this mod! plz author can you recheck it plz?
:D

@DarthBaylen, I am having the same problem, Sun Ce is just getting hillariously castrated by some of these modifiers.

nope it is certainly not working for sun ce!!! campaigh in 194 and 200 year campaign also

I mean the new general collections mod. Would it conflict to that mod??

Fixed Kong Rong's issue where general allegiance are now shown, also "fixed" Sun Ce
--> FISRT thanks fopr this awesome mod m8 and general for the contibution but it is not working for sun ce, sun ce officials provides no dynasty or whatsoever influence . i have tested more than 2 hours gameplay in activating deactiving mods re uploading etc etc and it is not working for sun ce's campaign not in awb not even fates divided. can you fix it plz? thanks in advance.

Fixed Kong Rong's issue where general allegiance are now shown, also "fixed" Sun Ce

This mod is so broken for Sun Ce in AWB. So many penalties at the start: -2 trade agreements, -2 spies, -2 assignments...Sun Ce's biggest asset, especially in the early to middle game, is his flexibility in having the ability to recruit fully organized and ready to strike mercenary armies quickly to respond to threats or instantly reorganize depleted armies by replacing them with fresh mercenaries...but without trade, even after researching it, it's seems impossible to afford hiring them. It also doesn't seem to change by appointing courtiers, as many others have said... c
Author can you plz adress sun ce court politics cause atm is not working this mod for sun ce campaigh in 194 ad or wtb

i dont know what are you saying above but i am certain that for sun ce campaigh this mod is not working! in the court politics all the officers provide no dynasty influence sadly!

新武將合集能用嗎

This mod is so broken for Sun Ce in AWB. So many penalties at the start: -2 trade agreements, -2 spies, -2 assignments...Sun Ce's biggest asset, especially in the early to middle game, is his flexibility in having the ability to recruit fully organized and ready to strike mercenary armies quickly to respond to threats or instantly reorganize depleted armies by replacing them with fresh mercenaries...but without trade, even after researching it, it's seems impossible to afford hiring them. It also doesn't seem to change by appointing courtiers, as many others have said...

你们孙策派系有效果了吗

Sun Ce Courtiers have no party affiliation

Sun Ce now has the Politics Mechanic

For some reason, the logos beside the character showing their allegiance (dynasty, beauro, warlord) are not showing for Kong Rong.

They dont appear, but if you try to appoint them to a minister position, they do have allegiances. So far I've only noticed this for Kong Rong only. It doesn't show for any new generals you can recruit with kong rong too.

Amazing mod, If possible could be possible to update to work with Sun Ce?

194孙策开局有bug，没有人物政治派系，我打了mtu和tup，但应该不是那些mod的问题

Dear author, when I was playing the script of Sun Ce, I found that there was no faction attached to its initial general, but there was one later recruited. I would like to ask if there is a bug

I might add Liu Hong's Politics Influence Resource in the future, the one that is needed to assign characters, it will also be used to enact political actions and some assignments.

extremely needed

ai也有效果吗

can u update? Now it can't be used with "all faction or newmajor" anymore

I noticed by hovering over the AI's factions and they don't seems to be affected by these buffs/debuffs? Is this intended?

I honestly think a lot of the effects are a bit too much, so the AI might not have a way to counter it early game but it's definitely a bit unfair

前期的招募费太贵了zzz

When playing as GongSunZan, Zhao Yun will defect on turn 1 when playing on Legendary difficulty. Is this an intended feature?

@835607052 三国志记载张飞友士大夫而不恤小人，我觉得问题不大

@Total Warlord 测试发现这个mod和radious一起使用会导致文官集团的buff和debuff变化，可以修复吗

Nice change for meaningless effects from original Liu Hong mechanic, nice update!! ^^

好

这个不是必须的吗

@835607052 Court Actions & Politics